Thanks again Dave, and thanks for the photo of the Torquay tunic button.
Can I ask a favour, as I'm struggling to attach photos to my comments.
Can you tell me step by step, how to attach a photo from my existing photos, and then I can see where I'm going wrong.......
I looked for the book ....Badges of Office, that you recommended, but the cheapest I could find was £50 on ebay, so a bit expensive.