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  1. And the unofficial type 1. I haven't measured the diameter, but it is noticeably smaller than the other Italians in my collection, so I'm sure it is an unofficial type 1, rather than a reissue type 2.


  2. I believe I have a couple of rarities here: the Italian official type 4 and unofficial type 1. First, the official type 4:


  3. Here are a couple eBay items I'm watching...at the risk of alerting potential competitors to the auctions, does anyone have any thoughts on these:



    They both appear to me to be unofficial type 1, even though the 2nd is listed as a type 2. The crudeness apparent in Laslo's pictures of the type 2 don't seem to be present here, and the suspension also doesn't match.

  4. Got this in the mail today. This is the only Lejsek Czechoslovakian medal I have seen so far, and is probably the rarest medal I have yet to collect.


    And closeups of the LA markings:


  5. Any thoughts on this Portuguese vic? It would appear to be an unofficial type 1, but I can't tell for sure. It has the suspension that Laslo identifies on the unofficial type 1 and the slightly rough surface between the crosses on the reverse, but some of the die features look more like those found on the official type 2--the ends of Victory's feathers, for instance, are a bit more angular than in Laslo's pictures of the unofficial type 1, which are more rounded. The suspension also is noticeably off-center.


  6. Hi Bill, it certainly looks real to me. I would guess that the suspension broke and was later resoldered and that someone intentionally gilded it. I have a French official that was silvered by the owner, so I wouldn't be surpriset to hear that some are also gilded. I can't imagine why anyone would fake a Belgian Type 1, as they are so common...not much profit to be had from producing such a fake.

  7. I received a Belgian official in the mail a few days ago, because, despite its poor condition, it was cheap and I wanted the silver bars, When it arrived, I found the planchet to be noticeably thicker than my other Belgian official example. There are no makers marks or the word "BRONZE" along the edge, so it's a regular Type 1, as far as I can tell. Anyone have an opinion on the differing thickness?

  8. I belive I have something a little unusual here. I got this on eBay, because I'd never seen a silvered French vic before. Realizing it may have been silvered much later, I figured it wasn't much of a risk for $25. This is the standard Morlon variety, and you can see the silvering has worn away in some places, revealing the bronze beneath. Has anyone else seen something like this or know why/when it may have been silvered?

    I apologize for the picture quality...you may just have to take my word for it that it has a mainly silver coloration.

  9. I am having trouble understanding the difference between the British type 1 and type 2 vics. I've looked through this thread and in Laslo's book, and understand that the type 1 is dark and dull, with the suspension saudered on. However, I'm still having trouble deciding based on pictures, which one I'm looking at. There are a number of British vics on eBay right now, and I really can't tell which ones might be type 1s. The sheen of the medal is not necessarily a giveaway, as I could just be looking at a tarnished type 2. I'm also not sure how to tell by looking whether the suspension is saudered.

    Any pointers?

  10. Got the Morlon version with triangle maker's mark (but no "BR") in the mail today. Got a great price on it too!


  11. The third type:

    In front: the figure of a woman with wings, representing the victory before a shield resting on the ground and that she supports with her left hand, while with his right hand raised, holding a torch, a helmet at his feet.

    On the reverse: a dove on the left, raised their wings, with an olive branch in its beak. At the top, in turn, is the motto of the large cavity. "War For Civilization" and horizontally, from top to bottom, divided by dove beneath the legend AI . COMBATTENTI . DELLE . NAZIONI / ALLEATE . ED . ASSOCIATE .. Associate and in-line below MCMXV MCMXVIII

    (immagine Scarpa-Sézanne "Le decorazioni del Regno di Sardegna e del Regno d'Italia - Commemorative - vol.2" - Tav. 25)

    Istituzione : 1920

    Comments welcome.

    Has anyone ever actually come across one of the walking/standing Italian versions? Laslo's book doesn't have much information on the origin of these, and am wondering what their backstories are.

  12. Here are my Belgian vics. Still puzzled as to why the Riemer and Lejsek versions were at a store in Vienna, but I'm not complaining

    Left to right: official, Lejsek, Riemer, uniface:


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