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  1. Happy to say I've managed to find an answer to part of my question, it seems the silver braided uniform was in use until 1887 as a dress uniform when the undress tunic replaced it for use as the dress uniform too. Still looking for details on the helmets and whether both Inspectors and Chief Inspectors wore the silver leaf embroidery on the cuffs.
  2. Hey chaps, first I'd like to say this project is not dead, just that I have come up against a bit of a brick wall finding out more information, particularly regarding specific dates, I hope re-opening this thread might turn up some more information. The main issue I am having is with the various grades of Inspector's uniform, circa 1870-1886. Below are two illustrations I've done to show the issues I'm having, the top example is based on information in the 'Behind the Blue Lamp' series and the famous Vanity Fair caricature of Chief Inspector Ebenezer Denning with an accompanying painting of t
  3. I hope you don't mind me re-opening this thread but it follows on from the discussion of dress swords above, there is an excellent 2012 photograph of the City of London Police Commissioner on horseback with a ceremonial sword adorned with a gold sword knot with a darker thread (blue?) interwoven, rather like those used by Royal Navy officers. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Mounted_Police.JPG Obviously the City force is an exception, I'm assuming other forces with white rather than yellow metal buttons insignia etc. would have a silver sword knot if any for the most senior
  4. Nice, I wonder if has it been used as a dockyard plate at some point, wondering if the large holes are to attach the skewed fouled anchor.
  5. A recent ebay pick up, a possible police collection (see note on leaving 'the force' in 1907), lots of pages removed from the front unfortunately. Posted for interest's sake and to hear your thoughts! Just one of those things I couldn't resist purchasing.
  6. Hey chaps, I'm hoping someone on here will be able to assist me in answering a question which has, sort of been asked on here before but not coherently, I now have the information I need to ask the specific question and it regards Metropolitan Police Inspectors/Chief Inspectors uniform circa the 1880s as this seems to be around the date of changeover, if there is one. Basically there are two patterns of tunic to consider one with 'silver' buttons and silver wire embroidery to cuffs and collar and the other more familiar with black buttons and trim. What I am trying to ascertain is was the latt
  7. Nice to see myths being perpetuated by the BCC, the 7 trouser creases do not represent the 7 seas. Indeed if you were under a certain height (5' 6" I think) you only had 5. Edit; wow, seems that graphic is put out by the RN itself. They don't seem to know their own history. The 3 stripes are also nothing to do with Nelson's victories, some original collars had only 2 and it was decided with the introduction of a uniform for all sailors in 1857 that 3 looked better, smarter, etc. It's not naval folklore, it's landlubber's folklore that's grown up around the uniform well after the fact.
  8. Hoods The combat smocks above can all have hoods buttoned on to the collar, examples in green and DPM respectively can be seen below.
  9. Smock and Trousers, Combat, 1968 Pattern The first really major deviation from the combats introduced druing the Korean war, the 1968 pattern sees quite a bit of simplification, the elbow patches are gone from the smock, as is the stitched collar, the back seam is gone and there are other small detail differences. The trousers have lost the knee pads which ran as a double-thick layer around the centre part of the leg in previous patterns but a second map pocket was added to the right leg. No label for the trousers as again it's been removed Smock, Combat, 1968 Pattern Trousers, Combat, 19
  10. Smock and Trousers, Combat, 1960 Pattern (DPM) The 1960 pattern made in DPM, this uniform was first manufactured in 1966 and is thus sometimes referred to as '1966 pattern' by collectors. No label photo for the smock as it has sadly been removed. Smock, Combat, 1960 Pattern (DPM) Trousers, Combat, 1960 Pattern (DPM)
  11. Smock and Trousers, Combat, 1960 Pattern The 1960 pattern standardised the existing combat uniform for general issue to replace the then still extant 1949 pattern battledress. Buttons were no longer vegetable ivory but of hard green plastic, these were first seen on late-issues of the combat sateen uniform. The smock differs from the previous pattern in having rounded elbow patches, rather than large, square patches. The trousers differ little from the 1953 pattern. The material is a coarser weave than the very fine sateen material seen in the earliest pattern of combats, this material started
  12. Smock and Trousers, Combat, Sateen Several patterns here, the first issue being the Smock, Combat, Sateen and Trousers, Combat, Sateen, sometimes referred to as '1950 Pattern' the smock remained largely unchanged, the trousers went through two other patterns, 1952 and 1953 pattern. The 1952 pattern deleted the button flap over the zip fly and slanted the side pockets, the 1953 pattern basically combines the simplified fly of the 1952 pattern with the original pocket layout from the Trousers, Combat Sateen. Smock, Combat, Sateen Trousers,Combat, Sateen Trousers, Combat, 1952 Pattern
  13. A little while ago I promised to create a thread detailing British combats from the Korean War to 1968 pattern so here it is, details in the following messages, I've largely let the photos speak for themselves. Sorry the label photos are sometimes a bit fuzzy, I will endeavour to replace these at some point and sorry for those where the labels are almost completely washed out.
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