Peter J

On 04/11/2009 at 18:09, Norm F said:

 

 

This list from Chairman is very interesting but puzzling. In other listings of PFL numbers from other sources, all of the above numbers are listed as 'unknown' whereas here there they are all assigned to various makers, including, I see, Richard Sieper as 115. (I deleted the other non-questioned numbers from the quoted list to highlight the ones in question.)

 

What is the reference for this list? Is there any proof for the above assignments? This would be an important question to clear up.

 

Best regards,

---Norm

I'm bringing this topic back to the top and include the announcement from St&L, specifically the reference to page 12.

cheers

Peter

Care to elaborate?

Thanks guys. I've got minor problems with my scanner, but the casting line is definitely present (my finger-nail gets stuck in it)! I thought the weight would close this case.

cheers

Peter

Gents, I just received this medal from a recent auction buy, but I can't say it made me happy. After some additional research on the web, I came up with these specifications:

28mm, silver or silvered bronze and suppsedly die-struck, weight 12-13g. The piece I received is clearly cast, the weight 6,77g without ribbon ring and apparently made in some white metal. Any or all info needed to convince the seller it's a fake (IMHO) would be greatly appreciated.

cheers

Peter

A 990 silver medal of Captain Müller, made by Laurer, Nürnberg.

Hi Deruelle,

Thanks for your kind words. I'm not well versed in Imp. minis, but I assume the SH is a Kommendeur mit starrer (rigid) Krone. The size is interesting, it has a diameter of 22,49mm.

The HM is equally fashinating IMO , but I'm not certain whether it's a Grand Cross (-1887) or not. The diameter corresponds pretty close to that date though, 18,84mm .

I find it difficult to make a choice between these two.

Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Greifen Orden (Ritterkreuz)

Brian, thank's for a great summary. As a sidenote, although the Asian flu wasn't an N1H1 virus (N2H2), it actually killed more people than the Svineflu 2009. My grandfather got the 1918 flu and lost all his hair and my whole family except your's truly had the Asian flu 1957. I've managed to navigate myself through life without ever having had any flu (guess it's not too late though)?

cheers/Peter

Thanks mate, I appreciate it.

I've found these two medals on the web (bronze and silver), both commemorating the so called "Balcony speach" made by Kaiser Wilhelm in conjunction with the outbreak of WW1. I did however not find any reference to the illustrated gold version, which is partly a mix in design compared to the other two. The sword pointing downwards also seems odd, as it normally signifies defeat. Question: is this an official strike? Feedback would be greatly appreciated ?

The WW1 War decorations from the various German states are often encountered in the 16mm version for wear on chain, but what about the 16mm version as a stickpin? Other than the common EK1, I only have the Anhalt Friedrich-Kreuz, which apparently is a non-official decoration.

A well worn Preussia/Saxony combo. Too bad about the rather amateurish attempt to restore the blue border.

Thanks Elmer, that's a little bit better. Nevertheless, I like this little creature.

Hi Elmer,

Thanks for a most educational elaboration. Given the similar appearance, I assume this enamelled miniature (27,33x14,34mm) is also a post-45 piece?

Many thanks for a most illuminating thread. Here are two more with a slightly more pronounced bronze colour,  the Philippine Insurrection No  19340 and the War with Spain No 7051. The Spanish War Service Medal (30594) unfortunately lacks the ribbon and is more shiny compared to the ones illustrated here. Although the details are fairly nice, the portion with stars above the eagle's head are merely dots. Perhaps a later minting?

Uwe, thanks for the info, greatly appreciated

Nice catch Lars! Is the mini silver or gilded, difficult to tell from the image. Here are a few more of the same type, the non-portable medal is Crownprince Karl (Karl XIV 1818). I also found one mini in my files dedicated specifically for him.

Wow, thanks Don, that's a beautiful document!!

Hi Joe, 

Long time no hear. Unfortunately there is no reference to a time-period. I think the protection/defence aspect seems plausible, the design resembles a house (bau), which is perfect for the above. With respect for the copyright I choose to illustrate the 2nd version with a rough drawing (Rembrandt would turn in his grave!).

Hi Robert,

Freely translated this pin reads Economygroup Buildingindustry of the Stategroup Industry (wow). The 2nd version is also illustrated in Hüsken's book "Abzeichen deutscher Organisationen".

Another addition to this interesting thread: according to Hüsken a Wirtschaftsgruppe Bauindustrie in der Reichgruppe Industrie 1. model. Comments are appreciated

Joe, pin for civilian wear, active LW personnel. The silver version was for "Luftnachrichtenhelferinnen"

Claudio, thanks for the link, I do wish I knew Italian though. I read two different eye-witness accounts for the events around Mussolini's capture, one Italian partisan and one American soldier who belonged to the first US troops to enter the villa at Como. Non of them shred any light over the existence of the star in question and I'm curoius if there is any "paper-trail" regarding this piece.

Correct, a fake based on the Deumer design.