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23 hours ago, Simius Rex said:

Very interesting information, but I'm trying to understand its relevance to the question asked by drspeck or the ribbon bar he presented.

One cannot conclude the bar's owner was necessarily a Czech or a Slovak, because thousands upon thousands of Czechs also served in the Wehrmacht, (including the Heer, Luftwaffe, Kriegsmarine, and the Waffen-SS) after being registered as German nationals and receiving Reich citizenship, according to Czech historian František Emmert in his book Češi ve Wehrmachtu. 

Many thousands of Czechs desiring to become "Gemanized" and shedding the classification of "Slavs" is not something the Czechs like to talk about, but it happened nevertheless.  If you read the translation of Mr. Emmert's book, many former ethnic-Czech officers of the Austro-Hungarian Army were keen on continuing their military service in the armed forces of the Third Reich.    

About the relevance its clear , And without knowledge of the history of the Czech Republic until 1939 and of the Protectorate from 1939 to 1945 is difficult to arrive to any conclusion . I posted trying to help 

I agree with Tifes . The newly created Czech Republic Army altough containing many ex Austro Hungarian Officers and NCOs was dominated by the Legionaries and these men dont wanted ever the slightest reference to the Imperial Army . perhaps because they were technically deserters and turncoats of the Old Army. 

Superb ! Sadly the Moon is more accesible than the helm . I observe that the Bavarian coat of arms and the other metal pieces appears as made of Silver, 

A interesting life !

Well , will await 

Simius , In the Hungarian Kingdom and it includes Transylvania until 1918 the oakleaf with acorns was the collar badge of Foresters either State ones or those of the private properties . Noble or not Landowners or in some cases villages or towns who owned Forests . the most common were the silver or silvered oakleafs .

filfoster : all is right ! Please tell us if from the musee des etoiles someone gives you some data 

In fact was decisive point of his career , When he was given the command in 1932 Hitler was not Chancellor , In September of 1934 Hitler paid a visit to Goslar , Rommels Bataillon was in charge of  the honours and security.or so thought Rommel . with great disgust he received the notification that the security wil be per count of the SS , He went to a local hotel were Goebbels and Himmler were taking breakfast and expressed his convictions . They gave him the reason and as it was as Rommel called the Attention of Hitler for first time

filfoster, Putting apart your commentary about Germans I want to say you that if any thinks that the Germans were an are obsessive with minor details the French were and are more Byzantines. a heritage of the times of both Napoleons and the passion for the Menus Travaux ,that were inserted in the Bureaucracy of wich the Army was no small component . A colour detail . In 1914 Philip Petain was a aged Colonel freezed for his unorthodox points of view. At the outbreak of WW1 was recalled and sent assume a High Command. he marched to the front and was ascended to General . petty problem , no stars were available .an old woman of the House were Petain was lodged solved the problem. She took the stars of the uniform of her father a retired and dead General and carefully sewn it on the sleeves of Petains vareuse

I understand that not , 

Hello , I dont know Why I thought that Viscountess wants information about Pre and WW1 Arzte .

the Prussian , take a look to the book Rommel of Brigadier Young. 

Rommel was from April 1932 as Major,commander of the third Bataillon of the 17th Infantry Regiment ,a Mountain Unit stationed in Goslar . 

8 hours ago, Glenn J said:

I came across this picture of General Victor d' Urbal's horizon blue helmet cover. The stars appear very much gold to me.

Regards

Glenn

 

 

A possible reason is the following .the stars are braided in silver thread ,once aged it yellowishes .

The stars on the Pre War Generals uniforms and on Horizon Blue were ever silver .

Captain Carl Woldemar von Dahen after a couse in the Nikolai Staff School .St Petersburg 1863

Hello W , It looks as Silver . another possibility is Maillechort. 

Hello,ViscountnessNiviac . Medical Officers carried sword indeed, The pattern was in Prussia the Model 1889 Degen fur Infanterie Offiziere, It was carried By Doctors, Veterinarians and Administration Officials . In Saxony it was the IOD , Infanterie Offiziere Degen, formerly the 1867 Infanterie Offiziere Degen .In Bavaria the IOS Infanterie Offizier Sabel ,M 1855 . After August of 1915 the Swords or Sabres for Infantry , Doctors etc was not carried more at the Field .instead it was carried a Bayonet with the Swordknot of the Sword or Sabre. 

Filfoster, I suggests you to enter into : museedesetoiles. fr  if you dont read French ,with the help of a dictionary you could find some of interest there

Very Interesting !  It was called Esaul ?

Its quite clear . Respect to the Schuetzenvereine ,I had noticed that were and are numerous specially in Rheinland Palatinate, Westphalia and hannover 

Hello Gentlemen , The creation of the Luftwaffe Field Divisions produced Great units ill equipated and armed, numerically inferior too in relation to the Heer Divisions, In these Field Divisions existed a heavy Horse drawn Transport Component . with a large presence of young women . In the book Uniforms and weapons of the soldiers of the War 1939 45 second volume ,Liliane and Fred Funcken 1972 . is a plate dedicated to the matter

Peter, equally thanks , the fact that they were reconverted Sniders is also interesting . perhaps someone read this post initiated by Stuka and be able to contribute with some data . 

Many Thanks ! I had read about Prince Arseni in the Memories of Marshall Mannerheim . the other information was and is practically unknown in Europe not to say in my remote Argentine. The two men on the cover of the magazine are Gendarms ? I assume that the old man with the Kiwer is King Petar . Kind regards !

Many battles took part during the 1870 71 War , and many sieges inclusive that of Paris or Bezieres , 

13 hours ago, peter monahan said:

What a great thread! 

I was once lucky enough, on a film shoot, to work with a dozen old rifles whose slings were marked 'ZP', which we assumed meant 'Zoauves Papal'.  They were the property of the Canadian Broadcasting Corproation, which has a huge presence in Quebec, where a number of the Zoauves were recruited, so I've always assumed some brought their weappons hiome with them.  Who knows?  But, yes, a fascinating group of men for many reasons.

Thanks for sharing, gents.

Peter

Peter,  They were Chassepots ? In 1868 from 4952 men of all ranks they were 135 Canadians in the Regiment ,really it was a Brigade rather than a Regiment. I think in Chassepots because they were the last rifles that they employed,  Probably by 1866 they were armed with Lorenz rifles . because of the good relations with Austria the major Catholic state .  En fin , Its a very fascinating historic theme that of the Army of the Pope King .

Thanks Sajkaca !

A question for Sajkaca ; I know tha Prince Arseni Karageorgevich served with the Imperial Guard , but no other conections between the Serbian Royals with the Tsarist Miitary, King Petar I for example was Colonel of any Russian Regiment or honorary General ¨?