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    PATOUT

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    1. Chokuninkan, soninkan & hanninkan

       

      HI Nick,

       

      You had published some time already (2020) see above,  very interesting sketches on the uniforms of civilian personnel chokinkan and soninkan.

      Since that time, all the uniforms I’ve seen on sale are always called chokuninkan or soninkan uniforms and never hanninkan.

      Does that mean the uniforms for the soninkan and hanninkan are the same?

      I bought this picture of a chokuninkan a few years ago. I already saw this photo on your site, maybe it’s an old photo from your collection?

      But do you know who this ambassador is ?, who according to his decoration has probably been stationed in China and Belgium !

      in advance,

       thank you for your answer

      Patrick

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    2. Hello everyone, dear collector friends

       

      Here’s another box with medals....

       The set (medals and bar) seems to me quite consistent but I wonder about the box !  (really I have a doubt !)

      Is it made in Japan?

      what is your opinion ? it is difficult to get a precise idea because there is unfortunately little documentation about these boxes.... and no sign or brand of manufacturer on this one.

      Your opinion is always welcome

      very cordially,

      Patrick

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    3. Hello everybody,

       

      On a uniform ....

      here are two pictures where is written the name of a captain of IJN inside the collar of the shirt and inside the belt looking.

      At lists of Japanese names, it seems to me that the name would be "Tsuji"   but what is his first name written (I think)  inside the belt.

      Thank you for your help,

                    your answer will allow me to know a little more about this officer,

      very cordially,

       

      Patout

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    4. Hello everybody,

       

      I have these two set of bicorne/shoulder board of naval officer.

       

      Something amaze me : on these two set officer's name is written in hiraganas on the iron and leather boxes and in hentaigana inside the "bicorne".

       

      Naturaly I don't think it's hazard... do you know the reason ? tradition in the navy ? or more simply (may be ?) is it easier to embroider in hentaigana ? This is not a isolate case, I found many other examples on the web.

       

      Do you have an idea about this specificity.

       

      Photo 1 & 2 : Lieutnant Inoué " 井上"  

      Photo 3 & 4 : Captain Hoshino Kurakichi   星野倉吉

       

      Thank you for your involvement for this request.

      Best regards

      Patout

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    5. Hello everybody,

       

      I own this officer's uniform and also I have his service records and translation in French (see below...)

      We can see on this uniform that he received medals, unfortunately there is no mention of his medals in his service record.

      Do you know if there is a way, with his name, rank and assignment in the navy to know what medals he got ?

      Is there a place to go to ask this question ? is there a database ? or archives ? in Japan

      Thank you for your involvement for this request.

       

      1/ Service records :

       

      星野倉吉   Hoshino Kurakichi   (3634/190 東京) 大佐

      Hoshino Kurakichi  : (36 ème promotion de l'académie impériale navale de Tokyo sorti  34ème / 190 cadets)  大佐  : Capitaine, grade final  (équivalent : capitaine de vaisseau - 4 galons)

      1908.11/21  少尉候補生 promu cadet (midshipman/enseigne de 1ère classe)
      1910.01/15 少尉 promu aspirant (enseigne de vaisseau de 2è classe)
      1911.12/1 中尉 promu Junior Lieutenant (sous lieutenant)
      1914.12/1 大尉 矢矧水雷長 promu Lieutenant, officier torpilleur 水雷長 sur le croiseur Yahagi 矢矧
      1920.01/12 天龍水雷長 officier torpilleur 水雷長 sur le croiseur Tenryū 天龍 

      1920.12/1 少佐 promu Lieutenant Commander  (3 galons)
      1923.04/1 呉工廠水雷部検査官 promu officier contrôleur à l'arsenal naval de Kure division torpilles
      1925.12/1 中佐 艦政本部造兵監督官 promu junior capitaine 中佐(commandeur-capit.frégate 3 galons) et nommé officier d'ordonnance au département technique de la marine impériale
      1928.12/10 佐世保艦船部員 nommé membre du district naval de Sasebo, division des bâtiments
      19 30.11/10 早鞆艦長 nommé capitaine du pétrolier ravitailleur Hayatomo
      1930.12/1 大佐 nommé capitaine (capitaine de vaisseau - 4 galons)
      1931.04/5 名取艦長 nommé capitaine du croiseur léger Natori (名取)
      1931/12/1 青葉艦長 nommé capitaine du croiseur lourd Aoba (青葉) 
      1959.8/31 死去 Décédé le 31 aout 1959 (à 64 ans)

       

      Best regards

       

      Patout

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    6. Hi dear friends,

       

      Today I would like to present to you a beautiful and, I think rare case.

      Obviously this set belonged to a japanese senior officer for having received the golden kite of 4th class as well as the rising sun and the sacred treasure of 3rd class.

      About the case it seems to me that the upholstery and the decor look more a Chinese manufacture than a japanese one. ... or may be it is a realization during the period of occupation........... of Manchukuo or Korea ?

      What is your opinion ??

       

       

      The case, outer face,

      what are these flowers ? not orchid, not cherry blossom, not chrysanthemum  flower !!!

       

       

      Thanks in advance for your involvement

       

      Patout

       

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    7.  

      Hello "1812overture"

      thank you for all this informations you were able to translate a part and I thank you very much for that.... it’s a start of track.

      (NB : I understood what you meant about veterans)

      It is true that Nick is always ready to help the collectors in their research but I think that he is realy too much solicited.

       May he bring more information in the coming days

      Thanks

      Patout

    8. I bought this little batch of diplomas that seem to belong to the same soldier, and I’d like to know his name and rank.

      It was decorated with the order of the sacred treasure of 4th class and the order of the rising sun (5th class?)

      He was also decorated with the Russo Japanese War Medal of 1904/1905, the Hiro Hito Coronation Medal and the Japan 2600 Years Medal

      With this diploma was the bar of medals. I am not sure that the bar is vintage because the ribbons look "very fresh" and not faded.... I would like to have Nick’s opinion on this medal bar, it seems to me that it is a reconstruction ?

      Patout

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    9. Thanks "1812 overture" for this photo with a japanese officer with the black star of Benin and thank you Peter for your comment

      I liked Nick's insightful comment about the non-dilution, but what I don't understand is the choice specifically of this colonial order ?

      Why not choose the order of the dragon (Annam), order of the star of Anjouan (Comores), Ouissam Alaouite (Morocco), royal order of Cambodia, Nichan Iftikar (Tunisia) ?...

      It only seems that the order of the dragon would be more appropriate, the drawing, graphics and design of this medal being more in the japanese style.

      But, may be giving a French colonial medal from the Asian zone (Annam-Vietnam) or royal order (Cambodia) would have been perceived as a provocation by japanese ?

      Patout

    10.  

      Good morning everyone,

      I would like to know what these three sakazuki commemorate ?

      I need someone to help me translate the text.
      I would also like to know the name of the soldier for foot of the third cup.
      Thank you for your help,

      Regards

      Patout

       

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    11. Hello to you dear collector friends,

       

      I wanted to show you this picture of Lieutenant Colonel Akutsu, what seems very strange to me is that he is titular (chevalier) of the French colonial order of the Benin Black Star.

      Has anyone ever seen a Japanese officer decorated with this order and does anyone have an explanation ? !

      cordially,
      Patout

    12. Hi Nick,

      Thank you for this quick and interesting answer, so it is a way to reward someone without giving the legion of honor.

      In the same order of mind, in France a "préfet" who takes office for the first time the government gives him the "mérite agricole" so that he has a medal to show on his uniform in the receptions.

      Best,

      Patout

    13. Hello to you dear collector friends,

       

      I wanted to show you this picture of Lieutenant Colonel Akutsu, what seems very strange to me is that he is titular (chevalier) of the French colonial order of the Benin Black Star.

      Has anyone ever seen a Japanese officer decorated with this order and does anyone have an explanation ? !

      cordially,
      Patout

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    14. Hello dear expert friends,

      I often see on sale on e.bay these beautiful sets of navy (bicorne + epaulettes) in steel box or leather box...

      For my personal culture, I would like to know the difference between these two sets seen on e.bay. The two bicornes look identical but the epaulettes present a soft difference. A pair of epaulettes has a red Paulwonia flower in addition (photo 1 & 2) . Does this correspond to a higher rank or at a different time?
      and what is the navy rank corresponding to these two sets ?

      books on combat uniforms are very numerous, however books about the parade uniforms of the Japanese Navy are very hard to find .. do you know one?

      Thanks for your help

      Patout

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    15. Hi dear passionate gentlemen and experts

       I found these three documents of the Meiji era together with a small batch of medals but I do not know if they belonged to the same person and what do they correspond  : military promotion, medal presentation, pension...?

      Again...I need your precious help and assistance.

      Patout

       

       

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