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  1. 16 hours ago, 922F said:

    Agree with your IDs,  IDs follow, those without ? relatively positive IDs others, best guess:


    #5  Austro-Hungarian [A-H] Leopold Order apparently with war decoration of lower class

    #7  A-H  Merit Cross  Verdienstkreuz?

    #8  A-H Signum Laudis [Military Medal of Merit--class?]?

    #9  The (General) War Service Medal 1873

    #10  A-H  Balkan Mobilisation Cross 1912-1913

    #13  4 point star Bulgarian Natioinal Order Military Division Grand Officer w/o war decoration aka Military Merit Order post 1936 3rd class  

    So #13 is the Grand Officer's Cross of the Bulgarian Order of Military Merit?

  2. Thank you guys for your quick responses! 

    I will post more soon.

    8 hours ago, Farkas said:

    I’ve just read he was awarded this:


    I dont know if this this is on display in your picture?


    It seems he was a Man with principles who paid the price for them...


    Yes tony. According to my sources he was awarded the Grand Cross of the Order of the Crown of King Zvonimir with Star and Swords. He is not wearing it on the photo though.

  3. I want to start this thread where I will post different photos of Croatian WW2 Generals that served in the Austro-Hungarian army during WW1.

    I need help with identifying their awards. Sometimes there will be other decorations (not just Austro-Hungarian) and I hope you can help me ID those also.

    First up is General Vladimir Laxa. Holder of the Knight's Cross of the Military Order of Maria Theresa.

    1 Gallipoli Star (Ottoman War Medal)

    2 Knight's Cross of the Military Order of Maria Theresa

    3 Military Merit Cross 2nd Class with War Decoration and Swords ???

    4 Order of the Iron Crown 2nd Class with War Decoration ???

    5 ???

    6 Military Merit Cross 3rd Class with War Decoration ???

    7 ???

    8 ???

    9 ???

    10 ???

    11 Croatian Military Order of the Iron Trefoil 2nd Class

    12 Grand Cross of the Romanian Order of the Crown ???

    13 ???

    Please tell me if you agree with my "???" and also write the class of the awards if you know them.

    You can also write the names of the awards in German.



  4. Hello,
    Can you please help me identify the awards from the ribbon bars of Konteradmiral Hasso von Bredow.

    His list of awards I have:

    -Iron Cross (1914) 1st Class
    -Iron Cross (1914) 2nd Class
    -Prussian Order of the Red Eagle 4th Class
    -Spanish Order of Naval Merit 1st Class
    -Knight's Cross 1st Class of the Saxon Albrecht Order with Swords
    -Prussian Long Service Cross 1st Class (25 years)
    -Knight of Honor (Ehrenritter) of the Johanniter Order
    -The Honour Cross of the World War 1914/1918 with Swords
    -Wehrmacht Long Service Awards 4th to 1st Class

    I have 2 photos of his ribbon bar. The first one is pre-WW2 (possibly from 1927) and the second one is taken during WW2.

    Ribbon bar from the first photo:

    - Iron Cross (1914) 2nd Class
    - Prussian Order of the Red Eagle 4th Class ???
    - Prussian Long Service Cross 1st Class (25 years) ???
    - Knight's Cross 1st Class of the Saxon Albrecht Order with Swords
    - Silesian Eagle 2nd Class ???
    - Spanish Order of Naval Merit 1st Class ??? (source 1914 Rangliste)
    - ???

    Ribbon bar from the second photo:

    - Iron Cross (1914) 2nd Class
    - Knight's Cross 1st Class of the Saxon Albrecht Order with Swords
    - The Honour Cross of the World War 1914/1918 with Swords
    - The photo is of bad quality but in the book it looks like the Silesian Eagle 2nd Class (von Bredow was part of the Naval Brigade Loewenfeld) ???
    - Prussian Order of the Red Eagle 4th Class ???
    - Wehrmacht Long Service Award 1st Class
    - Wehrmacht Long Service Award 3rd Class
    - Prussian Long Service Cross 1st Class (25 years) ??? (also a blue ribbon I think)
    - ???
    - Spanish Order of Naval Merit 1st Class ???




  5. 14 hours ago, Dave Danner said:

    RAO2EXXRs2 is the Roter-Adlerorden 2. Klasse mit Eichenlaube und Schwertern und Schwertern am Ringe am zweimal schwarz- und dreimal weiß-gestreiften Bande.

    "Kreuz der Genossen" is that class in German. In English, it is Companion of the Most Distinguished Order of Saint Michael and Saint George. The Order comes in three classes.

    DtEDM, Flandern and Kyffh are three unofficial Weimar-era decorations for veterans: 


    Since Wedding was still alive in 1934/35, they would have been replaced by the official Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer.  

    UKDM is the Hungarian WW1 commemorative medal. I abbreviate this UKEM, because it is an Erinnerungsmedaille and not a Denkmünze, but I have not yet won over my fellow research gnomes on this point. 


    The rest of your "???" are correct.

    Thank you very much Dave!

    I have a photo of Wedding and another one of his medal and ribbon bars when he got the Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer.

    On the first photo he is wearing 4 unofficial awards.

    I think the third medal is the Deutsche Ehrendenkmünze des Weltkriegs and the fourth the Flandernkreuz. The Kaiser Wilhelm Centenarmedaille is also visible.

    Do you have any idea on what the fifth (oval) and the sixth (round) medals are? Both with "Schwertern" devices.

    I think the fifth (oval) medal could be the Kyffhäuser-Kriegsdenkmünze?


    Also, I can't see the Kyffhäuser-Verdienst-Kreuz you linked above? He doesn't seem to be wearing it?


    Vizeadmiral Karl Wedding 2.jpg

    Vizeadmiral Karl Wedding1.jpg

  6. Anyone? Please.

    This is what I managed to work out so far.

    RAO2EXXRs2: ???
    RAO4X: Roter Adler Orden IV. Klasse mit Schwertern
    KO2: Kronen-Orden II. Klasse ???
    DA: Dienstauszeichnungskreuz I. Klasse
    China Tientsin: China-Denkmünze in Bronze mit Spange "Tientsin"
    BH: Bremisches Hanseatenkreuz
    HH: Hamburgisches Hanseatenkreuz
    LüH: Lübeckisches Hanseatenkreuz
    OK1: Grossherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz I. Klasse
    OK2a: Grossherzoglich Oldenburgisches Friedrich August-Kreuz II. Klasse mit Spange “Vor dem Feinde” ???
    GM3: From 1914 Rangliste: "St. Michael und Georgs-Orden, Kreuz der Genossen" What does the Kreuz der Genossen mean? What class is that in german?
    SMK1: Spanischen Orden für Verdienste zur See, I. Klasse
    DtEDM: ???
    Flandern: ???
    Kyffh: ???
    UKDM: ???

  7. Here is an interesting image from a 1917 issue of the German magazine Lustige Blätter.

    Can you please help me confirm numbers 3 and 4?

    1 Maximilian von Spee
    2 Henning von Holtzendorff
    3 Hugo von Pohl ???
    4 Eduard von Capelle ???
    5 Franz Hipper
    6 Prinz Heinrich von Preußen
    7 Alfred von Tirpitz
    8 Reinhard Scheer


    Here is the source of the image: https://roadstothegreatwar-ww1.blogspot.com/2013/06/notable-figures-of-kriegsmarine.html

    They identified number 4 as Adolf von Trotha, but it is not him.


  8. On 08/02/2013 at 22:03, Daniel Krause said:

    Hello Wayne,

    I try so. Now 75 in the list...

    Sorry for all the abbreviations :-)






    Bastian, Max KL Amazone, AStO Finnl, 38 Adm KVKRKX, HOH3X, BH, HH, LüH, MMV2, WHDA1, FinnFK2X, ÖM3K, SW2b 24

    Wedding, Carl KzS, VA 2.MarD RAO2EXXRs2, RAO4X, KO2, DA, China Tientsin, BH, HH, LüH, OK1, OK2a, GM3, SMK1, DtEDM, Flandern, Kyffh, UKDM

    Hello, can you tell me what is your source for Bastian's SW2b? It is not listed in the Ranglisten I own (1914, 1916, 1918 or any other Reichsmarine Ranglisten).

    Also, can someone please write the full names of Wedding's awards?

    Many thanks!

  9. This is a thread I started a while ago on the Axis history forum, but had no luck there.

    My goal is to identify the Admirals on these photos.
    This is the ceremony of Erich Raeder being promoted to Großadmiral on board the Scharnhorst in Wilhelmshaven on 1 April 1939. The date is important to narrow down the search. Also the "Tirpitz" was launched the same day.
    I hope you can help. Open the photos in a new tab to zoom them in a bit. They are possibly placed in seniority order. Feel free to correct any mistakes and comment below if you have any ideas.

    1 Admiral Conrad Albrecht (promoted the same day to Generaladmiral)
    2 ???
    3 Hafenbaudirektor Karl Tiburtius
    4 ???
    5 ???
    6 Vizeadmiral Friedrich Götting
    7 ??? (face barely visible)
    8 ???
    9 Possibly Marineoberbaudirektor Prof.Dipl.Ing. Hermann Burkhardt ??? (he is ID'd on a different photo from the same date, the launching of the Tirpitz)
    10 Vizeadmiral Hans-Herbert Stobwasser ??? (I don't think he is Stobwasser)
    a ??? (again he is too short so the face isn't visible)
    b Vizeadmiral Günther Guse
    c ???
    d Vizeadmiral Hermann von Fischel
    e ???
    f Vizeadmiral (Ing.) Hans Fechter
    g Vizeadmiral Hermann Densch
    h ???
    i Vizeadmiral Wilhelm Marschall
    j Charakter als Vizeadmiral Ernst Wolf
    k Charakter als Vizeadmiral Kurt Aßmann
    Admiral between k and l ??? (barely visible)
    l Konteradmiral Heinrich Ancker ??? (I am not sure about this one either)
    m Konteradmiral Witold Rother
    n Konteradmiral Raul Mewis
    o Konteradmiral Otto von Schrader ??? (pretty sure it isn't von Schrader)
    p Konteradmiral Werner Grassmann
    q Konteradmiral Günther Lütjens
    r Konteradmiral Otto Schniewind
    s Konteradmiral Conrad Patzig
    t Konteradmiral Otto Hormel ??? (again, not sure about this one)
    u Vizeadmiral Willy von Nordeck (he can be seen in detail on the last photo of this post)

    To help ID the rest of the Admirals I compiled a list of all the Admirals that held either the Konteradmiral, Vizeadmiral, Admiral or Generaladmiral rank (or Charakter of those ranks) as of 01 April 1939 (i.e. the date these photos were taken) and were active at that time in the Kriegsmarine. I also wrote in the brackets the ones already identified on the photo:

    Alfred Saalwächter, Admiral
    Conrad Albrecht (ID number "1"), Admiral
    Hermann Boehm, Admiral
    Karl Witzell, Admiral
    Otto Schniewind (ID "r"), Konteradmiral
    Otto Schultze (he was placed at the disposal of the Kriegsmarine, not in active service), Admiral
    Rolf Carls, Admiral
    Walter Warzecha, Konteradmiral
    Wilhelm Marschall (ID "i"), Vizeadmiral
    Conrad Patzig (ID "s"), Konteradmiral
    Erich Zieger, Konteradmiral (Ing.)
    Eugen Lindau, Vizeadmiral
    Günther Guse (ID "b"), Vizeadmiral
    Günther Lütjens (ID "q"), Konteradmiral
    Hans Fechter (ID "f"), Vizeadmiral (Ing.)
    Hermann Densch (ID "g"), Vizeadmiral

    Hermann Mootz, Konteradmiral
    Hermann von Fischel (ID "d"), Vizeadmiral
    Hubert Schmundt, Konteradmiral
    Karlgeorg Schuster, Vizeadmiral
    Max Bastian, Admiral
    Otto Hormel (ID "t", I am not sure about this one being Hormel, any ideas?), Konteradmiral
    Otto von Schrader (ID "o", I am not sure about this one being von Schrader, any ideas?), Konteradmiral

    Paul Fanger, Konteradmiral
    Raul Mewis (ID "n"), Konteradmiral
    Werner Fuchs, Konteradmiral
    Wilhelm Canaris, Vizeadmiral
    Willy von Nordeck (ID "u", Admiral right of "t"), Vizeadmiral
    Adalbert Schüssler, Charakter als Konteradmiral
    Ernst Wolf (ID "j"), Charakter als Vizeadmiral
    Friedrich Götting (ID "6"), Vizeadmiral

    Georg Reimer, Charakter als Konteradmiral
    Hans Stohwasser, Charakter als Konteradmiral
    Hans-Herbert Stobwasser (ID "10", I am not sure about this one being Stobwasser, any ideas?), Vizeadmiral
    Heinrich Ancker (ID "l", I am not sure about this one being Ancker, any ideas?), Konteradmiral

    Karl Thäter, Konteradmiral Ing.
    Kurt Aßmann (ID "k"), Charakter als Vizeadmiral
    Robert Witthoeft-Emden, Vizeadmiral
    Siegfried Maßmann, Charakter als Vizeadmiral
    Thilo von Seebach, Konteradmiral
    Walter Matthiae, Charakter als Konteradmiral
    Werner Bettenhäuser, Konteradmiral Ing.
    Werner Grassmann (ID "p"), Konteradmiral
    Witold Rother (ID "m"), Konteradmiral

    Erich Mahrholz, Charakter als Konteradmiral
    Hans-Hermann Graf von Schweinitz und Krain Freiherr von Kauder, Charakter als Konteradmiral
    Hasso von Bredow, Charakter als Konteradmiral
    Kurt Ramien, Konteradmiral
    Peter Christian Donner, Charakter als Konteradmiral


    Many thanks!


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    Admiral Raeder holding the baton given to him by Hitler on his appointment as Grand Admiral aboard the Scharnhorst%252C probably in Wilhelmshaven%252C4 1939.jpg

    Schlachtschiffs Tirpitz%252C1 4 1939.jpg

    image (2).jpg


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