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18 minutes ago, Terry37 said:

I picked this one up in the UK hoping it was some odd Medics trade badge. It came with a nice large RAMC brass title. I have searched high and low and for the life of me, I cannot identify it. I have searched Army, Navy and Boy Scouts for the world, but have found nothing with the blue circle??? In construction it looks WW1 era and is small, the size of a typical Canadian trade badge or that of a US quarter. Perhaps a fantasy patch, a home made one off or possibly a Royal Naval Division medic's patch??? Any help is appreciated.

 

I’ve got a guess Terry…

American Red Cross volunteer.

 

This 👇 is a 1940’s era pin badge, seems yours could be a homemade version ?

tony 🍻

 

Terry,

that looks fantastic mate.

A fine effort!

 

Can you explain to me the arrangement?

I get that certain tartan ‘goes’ with certain badges but particularly I’m curious how RAMC badges connect with the particular tartan… I know there isn’t a SRAMC 😊

 

 

tony 🍻

Such an interesting story surrounding Carl Edward, well worth looking up.

 

There was it seems only one grade given to foreigners and it was not freely awarded…

Re your quest, I could only find this reference to permission to wear it, but it’s not available on line unfortunately 

 

 

I thought I’d found an interesting thread on GMIC for you but you are in it yourself, it was a while ago mind !

Cheers

tony🍻

Hi Gents,

I’ve got a possible match…

 

I found this one first

 

as I was looking into this 👆 I found a second related award👇

 

 

The bars end ribbon doesn’t have the red stripe and looks white/grey… this one is grey/white with that red stripe.
- Maybe it is that heavily faded.

Even if it’s not the same it is surely for another related one 🤷‍♂️ assuming my first identification is accurate 🤞

Grey and white ribbon & with them both for similar services, the similarity is too much to be coincidence in my opinion 🤞

 

tony 🍻

I’ll keep an eye out 👍

10 hours ago, FOR VALOUR said:

Hello Tony, 

           Thank you for looking very much appreciated. Regards David 

Sorry David,

No makers mark on mine…

 

 

Are you missing one on a tunic or are you looking to ‘complete the set’ ?

 

tony 🍻

On 16/04/2024 at 08:36, Chrisclem said:

Hello,

         I wonder if anyone can help with my query. The attached photo is of my 3 x Great Uncle General Alfred Thomas Heyland CB  1813 - 1897. West Yorkshire Regiment/ 14th Buckinghamshire Prince of Wales Own Regiment.  He lost an arm in the Battle of Alma.  My wife wants to produce a painting of him and I am trying to find out the correct colours for his uniform, also his feathered headgear to the left of the photo.  

     All help appreciated.

 

                    Chris

Hi,

This is it.

Dont miss that there are some red feathers under the white ones on the

bicorn…👍

 

tony 🍻

12 hours ago, FOR VALOUR said:

Hello, 

         I'm looking for a 24mm Cambridgeshire regiment button from WW1 by the maker Jennens if anyone can help please. 

Regards 

I’ve got one of theirs👇
 

 

It’s gonna be in here 👇😊

 

I’ll need to dig it out to see if the maker is Jennens. 🤞

tony 🍻

 

16 hours ago, WJT said:

That’s the clover makers mark of BSW.

Brüder Schneider, Wien.

A nice clear example.

 

I don’t know much about them, I have looked previously for information about them for myself.
I do know they did continue business after the war and were used considerably after Austria’s annexation to produce particularly luftwaffe badges. 
 

tony 🍻

 

 

No Bill, no need to apologise at all 😊😊

 

tony 🍻

Hi Gordon,

do you mind if I share your pics on twitter? I can most likely get a translation from someone on there.

 

tony 🍻

13 hours ago, FOR VALOUR said:

Hello,

        Are records available for the victorian volunteer long service medal please appreciate any advice ?

Regards 

looks like there is 👍

 

https://www.omrs.org/news/omrs/uk-volunteer-long-service-medal-roll-now-available

Nice 👍

Interesting to see unusual ones…

 

What are those end ones Greg?

tony 🍻

On 28/03/2024 at 21:02, kolbaro said:

Hi Gents,

 

Can you please help me with the identification of this maker? 

 

 

 

Thanks,

Tom

 

 

Hello Gents, Tom,

I’m gonna throw this out and see what I get back…. 🤷‍♂️
 

I’m currently thinking 

WB is ‘Weiss, Budapest”

From Wikipedia :
‘The Weiss Manfréd Acél- és Fémművek("Manfréd Weiss Steel and Metal Works"), or colloquially Csepel Művek ("Csepel Works") was one of the largest machine factories in Hungary, located on Csepelisland in the southern part of Budapest, founded in 1892. It was the second largest industrial enterprise in the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy, and the biggest industrial enterprise in the Hungarian half of the Empire. It played an integral role in the heavy industry and military production of the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy. Founded by Baron Manfréd Weiss of Csepel, an industrialist of Jewish origin, by the time of World War I the company was one of largest defense contractors in Austria-Hungary,[1] producing all types of equipment, from airplanes and munitions to automotive engines, bicycles Csepel bicycle and cars. ‘

Not got much else to support it, apart from it fits and I’ve not found anything else that does. & I have tried! 

 

All thoughts welcome as always 👍

Need some Zzz’s.

 

cheers 

tony 🍻

On 31/03/2024 at 20:46, WJT said:

Has anyone heard of AH submarine badges classed by Type 1, 2 and 3.

I have been collecting many for the last 50 years. I am no expert but I try to learn something every day. Please educate me.

thanks

 

Hi WJT,

I often found you when I was looking for the answer to this 🍻 I’m tempted to say if you haven’t found examples then they probably don’t exist, however I’ll add my thoughts if I may 😊

 

There is I believe a consensus that officers/commanders(?) did not receive these.

So I wonder if there would have been a disinterest, a reluctance or even opposition to their subordinates being recognised with a trio of awards including prestigious silver and gold classes.

I have no knowledge of the number of submariners that would even have made, for example the 10,  25 or 50 trips required should classes have been introduced.  
Was it a short life expectancy career? And/Or did subs have a low level of involvement in action?

I’m certain you know more than I about that than most 😊

 

More questions than answers I know.

 

I did find one photo online that I thought was interesting…

 

He has a pre war mobilisation cross and then during the war he earned bronze, small silver and large silver bravery medals.., and yet still only has one uboat badge.

Is it safe to assume that he served long enough to receive a second class should one have existed 🤷‍♂️
 

cheers

tony 🍻

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Gents,

I wasn’t sure whether to post this over in the ‘real’ or here in the ‘fakes’…

 

I spotted this earlier, the dealer has a good reputation and I don’t want to cast aspersions but for such a scarcely issued award and I presume therefore prestigious award… the quality of workmanship looks terrible to me.

 

Prussian Order of Louise

1813-14 Issue,

Gold & Enamel

First Class Medal

 

 

 

 

I’ve marked a few things on this 👇.  Seems to me iit has obvious tool marks but it is the inconsistent width and edges that made me doubt it initially.. 

 

If it’s in fact a genuine piece then no wonder the maker didn’t want to put his mark on it.

 

Any thoughts Gents?

 

tony 🍻

On 23/03/2024 at 11:14, BalkanCollector said:

 

Is there any way you can get more detailed photos of this decree? Especially the part I marked because it may hide some information. It's impossible to read it with this resolution.

 

Hi BalkanCollector,

I’ve just checked, DLE hasn’t been back on since your reply, hopefully will soon though - fingers crossed,

I’ll give you a nudge if/when..,,

tony 🍻

 

2 hours ago, No one said:

Dear Gentlemen,

 

New bug? My pictures, posted Friday at 14:07, are gone! Where? Why? How?

 

- "Order of the Sacred Treasure" 7th class with the "ナ / na" hallmark:

 

 

 

 

 

- "Order of the Sacred Treasure" 8th class with the "ナ / na" hallmark:

 

 

 

 

Yours sincerely,

No one

Dear No one,

that was me I believe 🤷‍♂️

Earlier It somehow added your pics to my post when I did my edit, I certainly hadn’t, so I removed them from my image list…

I haven’t got a clue how it could affect yours, I didn’t see it had at the time, but seems now it did. 

 

tony 

 

Hi Gents,

I’ve dug out my little collection at last..,

 

Sadly not as many as I once had, other ones I had in wooden boxes were an easy way to raise funds when in a hurry..,

 

I’ve had mixed results looking for stamps/marks, maybe you can see more than I do 😊

Either way I’m going to add pictures of them all as they are each nice things.

 

Putting them in 3 groups..,

2 boxed orders

Nothing added

4 medals from 1910’s

Unsure if tool marks or worn marks 

3 Red Cross medals

2 have clear marks, 1 unsure 

 

Order of the Rising Sun

7th and 8th classes

 

 

 

1914-15 War medal.

 

 

 

1914-20 War medal

 

 

1915 Enthronement Medal.

 

Together.

 

ww1 Allied Victory Medal.

 

Red Cross Medal.

 

 

 

Life Member Medal.

 

Medal.

 

 

 

Together.

 

Tony 🍻

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 28/03/2024 at 21:02, kolbaro said:

Hi Gents,

 

Can you please help me with the identification of this maker? 

 

 

 

Thanks,

Tom

 

I Want It!!  
 

Hi Tom,

thanks for showing us your example 🍻

 

As you probably realise that one is not on our list… yet 😊

So I now know what I’ll be looking for tonight… fingers crossed I’ll get an id for it, I’ll keep you posted.

 

cheers

tony 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇬🇧

On 25/03/2024 at 05:20, No one said:

Order of the British Empire (Civil) / 1914-15 Star / British War Med. / 1914-1918 Mercantile Marine Med. / Victory Med. / Defence Med.:

Some snippets from Wikipedia:

All recipients of the Mercantile Marine War Medal also received the British War Medal. Service solely in the Mercantile Marine did not earn them the award of the Victory Medal or either of the two Stars.

However. Members of the Royal Navy seconded to the Mercantile Marine to man defensive weapons on merchant ships could qualify for the Mercantile Marine War Medal in addition to other campaign medals. 

Also. Men who transferred in or out of the Mercantile Marine from, or to, the fighting services could also qualify for the award of the Victory Medal and, if appropriate, the 1914 Star or 1914–15 Star, while still being eligible for the Mercantile Marine War Medal.
Service solely in the Mercantile Marine sadly did not count for the award of the Victory Medal or either of the two Stars.

 

It would seem to me that your ribbons were worn by a merchant seaman after the war. The arrangement of ribbons was not regulated, or regs were ignored, for them and though I’ve seen this in pics, I’ve never had one myself.  

Though it could be an army man that also served in the MM and again went to sea after the war, it’s most likely a Royal Navy man that earned these for service as described above.

👉 it’s a cool thing, yours with the OBE particularly so. 😊

 

tony 🍻

 

ps that ‘South Africa’ bar is missing another row I think , or at least one ribbon, it definitely should have the ww1 Victory medal, it was always awarded with the other two.  👍 

On 23/03/2024 at 11:14, BalkanCollector said:

 

Is there any way you can get more detailed photos of this decree? Especially the part I marked because it may hide some information. It's impossible to read it with this resolution.

 

Thanks for the interest, don’t go anywhere, I’ll be back asap !!   🍻

Playing up 🫤

 

Threads playing up, I hope i don’t have to write that again 🤞

6 hours ago, gjw said:

 

Hey Tony, good to hear from you, hope all is well.

 

So you think this bar is to a Vet who served in the First World War?  

 

Many thanks as always!

 

Greg

Hi Greg,

always good to catch up with you, all is well my end, hope you are well too.

 

To be honest I was thinking a ww2 veteran as it is without any of the 1930’s issued ww1 commemorative medals

 

 

So it would be a ww2 vet…

but I could be wrong

(it’s not uncommon 🥴)

 

Also I realised I overlooked #7, the last but one medal, the silver one, the reverse of which is shining away in picture 2.

 

That is a 40 year service/membership  medal from Tirol, Austria… so there should be a 25 year medal like this before it.

 

 

 

The first is an award from :

The Austrian Black Cross (Österreichisches Schwarzes Kreuz)

& that could be as old as 1919 but I believe here it’s the wrong ribbon… it should be a

red - white - red ribbon for that.

 

And I’ve no idea about number 2 still.

 

So, after thinking ww2 vet, then ww1 ve when I saw the 40yr award, then even considering a 1848(!) & 1866 vet because of these 👇 (and wishful thinking).

Sadly couldn’t justify 1848/66 so I came back to our first impression , a ww2 veteran and it fits…

The current medal 1 doesn’t belong,

the first one should be this 👇

Also, To accommodate the missing 25 yr medal, there has to be another one that doesn’t belong… so I’m binning number 2. 🤷‍♂️
 

————-

its 5.41am and it’s time for a snooze but…

 

I reckon the bar should be…

Number 1 - needs a 1939 to 45 cross

Number 2 - medal 6 belongs here

Numbers 3,4 & 5 - correctly hung.

Number 6 - needs a 25yr medal here.

Numbers 7 & 8 - are correctly hung.

 

I don’t know why 8 goes on the end but I’ve seen it there after (after a 25&40 also) on two other bars tonight, is it possibly because it’s ‘East Tyrol’ not just ‘Tyrol’, is East Tyrol still Austrian or is there some bad history 🤷‍♂️ Anyway, whatever the reason that’s where it seems to get placed.

 

Cheers

tony 🤷‍♂️