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Hallo Kevin, of course it could be replaced in old times(maybe a mark from the Jeweler)

That one you have posted now is a Weiss&Co

I saw this cross on Ebay too, but the mark in the ring does not make any sense, the cross is a late Hemmerle. Best regards

Hello, the MVO Ritter 1, changed in 1905 to the MVO 3. Class(the design doesen`t change), and the Ritter 2(made out of Gold no flames between the arms) changed into the MVO 4. class But this piece from the club is not worth to buy, like all his other stuff.An original Ritter 2 looks completely different.

Hello Avadski, nice cross it is the same maker like your first post, also Deschler Regards

Hallo avadski, the maker is Deschler. Regards

No totally fakes, but 4.Classes which were later gilded to realize more money.

Because the second MVO and the Luitpolt Medal are pure Peace-time awards. At first he wears his War-time Awards, then the long service Awards, then the third Reich Awards and last and unfortunately at least his Peace-time Awards. I also do not like to see those nice and rare MVO?s in this position. Some Wehrmacht Officers don`t wore their Jubilee Medal on their Medal Bar(Maybe no Bavarian Patriots)

Some good guys want to let him pay very high charges to ebay,I think this is a very good idea to stop this criminal.

The Maker is Hemmerle Regards

That one from Ulsterman is by mine humble Opinion a doubtless Original Made by Hemmerle so wait before pushing orders into saltwater or doing any other bad things to them.

Can you also send a picture from the back ? Looks like Hemmerle.

Can you send a picture from the backside, I have to say again that gilded MVK1X exist and that one does not look bad.

Yes, that are a few important points for a center made out of gold, the one piece centers are a few more thin, like the silver ones. The best is if you have a Original in your hand that will say more than pictures. But don`t forget that gilded MVK1X also exist(again other criteria), but gilded ones with crown do not exist. Regards

Chris sent the link in that Threat where you have posted your nice Luftwaffenspange with the nice Hemmerle MVK2KrX. And you can also find it in the Datenbank from the mff.This thread was started in 28. Dec.07 Regards