Hi Gordon, I was not absolutely sure what you mean in your post. You believe the rounder is post war? I am pretty sure that is what you meant, just want to be certain. I know there is a nasty battle between many folks with this subject, and I am not stirring any pots nor do I want to be involved in any of that, I only want to know if everybody is in agreement that the rounder is post war. (I know you can't speak for J.Cross or anyone else) Thanks, Sal