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  1. Marcus, I think it's not a fake but a piece after 1918. The manufacturer should be Leser.
  2. Servus Alex, the case has only a blind embossed line at the top and has no hinge but only a strip of linen. The jobs were shared by Quellhorst and Hausinger. The cases are identical except for the manufacturer's name in the lid. Above you can see a Quellhorst Cross of Merit in a Hausinger case. Here I have added a Quellhorst case. If I can still remember that, around 1200 crosses have been awarded. Best wishes Walter
  3. Servus, I mean that the cross has been upgraded. The front medallion does not look originally enamelled. Better pictures of the VS medallion would be helpful. I wouldn't want it. There are better pieces. Best wishes Walter
  4. Hello Lucky, As previously written, all golden parts or crosses that were made of gold were only made of gold-plated silver from 1917 onwards. Also the MVO 3rd class. It is important that the flames of the MVO 3rd class are used separately, i.e. not included in the casting. This does not apply to the 4th grade !!! If you are offered a 3rd class MVO, silver gold-plated, always look at the flames to see whether they were also used later. This also applies to the higher classes. I hope that I have now understood your question correctly and that you are satisfied with my answer. Best wishes Walter
  5. Servus Lucky, I do not understand your question completely. The MVO was originally donated in 5 classes in 1866. Namely the Grand Cross, the Grand Commander, the Commander, the Knights 1. These crosses had flames between the arms of the cross. Knight 2nd class as well as military merit cross, these without flames between the arms of the cross. Another class, the Officer's Cross, was created in 1900. This was available with and without flames between the arms of the cross. In terms of ranking, this officer's cross was classified between the Commander's Cross and Knight 1. Until then, all classes up to knight 2 were made in gold, the medallions of the Military Cross of Merit were also made in gold. At the end of 1905 this classification was reorganized. Grand Cross, 1st class, 2nd class with and without a star, 3rd class and 4th class with and without a crown as well as the Military Merit Cross 1st and 2nd class. From 1905 (until the end of 1916) all classes up to 3rd grade were gold, 4th grade silver with gold medallions on the front and back. From the end of 1913, the Military Cross of Merit was donated in 3 classes with and without a crown. The 1st class had real gold medallions on the front until 1916. From 1917 all classes and medallions made in gold were made in gold-plated silver. A little difficult and extensive. I'll try to make this classification clearer soon. With friendly greetings Walter
  6. Hello everyone, I am surprised that these books are so sought after. I have duplicated volumes 1 - 6 and put them up for sale as a package for sale in a German forum. There wasn't a single demand for it. Volume 1 is particularly sought after. As far as I know, the 7th volume is still available in bookshops. I still remember that I was looking for the first volume for a long time and paid double the original price. One can see how diverse the demand for these excellent volumes is. Many greetings Walter
  7. Oh sorry, my english is not good and the google translator may have translated it incorrectly. Ich frage ihn mal. Did the Peuße get a Bavarian award?
  8. I know someone who has access to all awards of the MVO and MVK. He didn't find a Kahle. I also have to go back to the VOBl. 1914 to 1920 checked. No Kahle is mentioned here either.
  9. Servus Chris, the IR 51 was probably not a Bavarian regiment. Between 1914 and 1920 I did not find any MVK 1, 2 or 3 awarded to "Kahle". Also no award to a non-Bavarian.
  10. Hello Chris, I have now checked again, a "Kahle" did not receive any MVK in WWI. No matter what first name. How sure will it be that the above-mentioned "Kahle" is really shown in the picture?
  11. I forgot, Hemmerle VS-medallions in 1st grade were always made in three parts like an MVO.
  12. Servus from Bavaria, actually I don't want to depress the positive mood but I'm not that enthusiastic about the MVK 1 with the crown and swords. This is an MVK from the manufacturer Deschler. MVK 1 Kr. X were only made by the manufacturers Hemmerle and Leser. There is only one early form of this rare MVK per manufacturer. I am showing the originals of the award, which has only been given 146 times. 8 of them only existed on the war ribbon. 138 were warded on the so-called "Beamtenband", the ribbon for war merit. Originals only have to look like this, so only like this! The VS medallions were made of gold. There was no gold-plated silver. The manufacturing quality of the 1st grade was significantly better than that of the 2nd and 3rd grades. The MVKs were specially well gilded, maybe even fire gilded, and the edges were reworked. The enamel of particularly high quality. The cases were lined in red, only the manufacturer's markings in the lid were different. Bild 1 = Etui Leser Bild 2 = Medaillon Leser Bild 3 = Etui Hemmerle Bild 4 = MVK Leser Bild 5 = MVK Hemmerle Now the cautious question, where did you get the information that Kahle had a 1st class crown swords? Many greetings Walter
  13. Servus Chuck, sh. auch hier: http://h2385226.stratoserver.net/wbb4/index.php?thread/74090-centenarmedaille-1897/&postID=481959#post481959 Viele Grüße Walter
  14. I think there should be a medal. Or maybe a LandwehrDA 1st or 2nd class. All of which is speculative. l.
  15. So the medalbar looks better except for the DA. A DA for NCOs and soldiers should go here. In contrast to the 1st class, this DA cross 2nd class could only be awarded to officers and higher military officials. The 1st class could also be awarded to lower ranks (see attachment)
  16. Servus VtwinVince, i think this wasn't a ribbon bar buckle made by an officer. I think that another DA and a MVK 1. Form belong here. There are of course other options. Does the EK 1870 belong to the ribbon bar?
  17. Bay. MVK 1. Klasse 2. Form 1905 - 1913 Bay. MVK 2. Klasse 2. Form 1905 - 1913 Bay. MVK 2. Klasse 2. Form 1905 - 1913 rare variant
  18. Servus Michael, the MVK 2 X is an original from the manufacturer Leser. Easily recognized by the belt buckle, the agraffe and the swords. regards Walter
  19. Servus Eric, is the front medallion made of gold? If it is not made of gold but is only gold-plated, the outer edge of the lower cross arm on the backside must be wider. Since the cross you are showing does not have a wider border, it can only be an original if the medallion is made of gold. The cross you are showing comes from the manufacturer Leser. The enamel seems good. In the appendix an MVK 1st class with swords for comparison. The last picture shows the widened edge of a reader's cross, which has a gold-plated front medallion. Such crosses were made from 1917, as real gold awards were no longer allowed. Best regards Walter
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