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    AlexLev

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    1. Stupid incivility of some guys ("gentlemen") is a quite annoying thing, by the way. It will be better to put them into the black list sometimes... Boris III was born on 30 January 1894 in Sofia or the Bulgarian Red Cross was established in May 1878 in Sofia. A huge amount of sources mention these facts and in this particular way, and if I would like to mention this information in my OWN text here also, this has nothing common with plagiarism. Also this is a very useful information here for men who didn't know about this before...The forum is not a peer-reviewed research article or habilitation thesis with a huge reference list to corresponding research data, so if somebody wants to know source of information in the forum text (in the case of interesting disputes, of course), he needs just to ask for this. And ask very polite and respectfully, of course.
    2. What did you add here about the Red Cross Medal and/or the history of Bulgarian Red Cross? Nothing (ZERO). As I have mentioned one time already, you are absolutely wrong and obviously you know almost nothing about plagiarism (I know very well, being the professor and journal editor for a long time already, but not in history, which is just my hobby). You are really add a zero (even very minus) info here, please, strictly avoid to do this in future (and, as I have already mentioned too, your excuses are very welcome!). And you have a bad memory, as I've already asked you about Petrov's book in my post #16 from 20 December 2017 in the Medal of Merit thread (I still don't buy it, but is going to do this)...How to mention the information about exact date of medal institution or about its face/reverse design? Everybody uses quite the same words in such cases, me too, when I am working on my own texts. See here, just look at this page (no any citing of Petrov's book, by the way), almost the same text also, because the subject is the same and the majority of known information can be descibed with just the few sentences - http://www.medal-medaille.com/sold/product_info.php?cPath=498_44&products_id=3223 http://www.medal-medaille.com/sold/product_info.php?cPath=498_44&products_id=8663 By the way, if you are really interested in decorations, you should know that, for instance, the description of coat of arms should be given according to strict heraldic rules only, so in every correct and knowledgable source the corresponding description is almost identical as there are no other ways to mention the same information. Quoting the source is necessary, but in this case - Royal Decree No. 9 only, with its exact document number from state archive! Yes, and I am not sure that I wrote 100% correct info here - “the Gold class of medals - for 20 years of service”... I found several mentions that it was awarded for 25 years of service. Need to check.... What does Pavlov’s book say about the Gold class and years of service?
    3. Hi, new world! Unfortunatelly, I don’t have the Pavlov’s book yet. But I have 4 volumes about world’s decorations by Borna Barac (but this manuscript contains more illustrations than text information). So you are absolutely wrong in your assumption and excuses from your side are very welcome. I am using Internet resources, for instance, medal-medaille.com, and several others. But there are some different info among them. And of course, if you read the text at least a little bit carefully, you will see that it is completelly mine, but based on combined information I could find in internet and other forums; the design description I am writing using medals from my collection or known photos as well as I am making the own translations of all inscriptions. I never copy the foreigner’s texts, but carefully analyze the info I could find in different sources, try to check it and write my own quite interesting (as I hope) texts always! It will be very useful for all forummembers to combine all information concerning particular decoration all together (including photos from collections), this is obvious. So if you don’t know the answers on questions I’ve asked in post 3 here, I am having hard time to understanding the purpose of your post.
    4. Nobody knows additional facts on the Red Cross Medal?
    5. The local Bulgarian Red Cross (BRC) organization was established in May 1878 in Sofia after the liberation of the Principality of Bulgaria and the region of Eastern Rumelia from the Ottoman Empire in order to help the wounded men after the Russo-Turkish War 1877-1878. The Bulgarian Society of the Red Cross was established on 20 September 1885 when aforementioned Bulgarian provinces were united together (officially the Society was recognized by the International Commitee of the Red Cross on 20 October 1885). During World War I, the BRC was very active in assisting the wounded and sicken soldiers with charity sisters, sanitary trains and field hospitals. Significant contributions to BRC were made personally by Tsar Boris III (a supreme patron of BRC) during the period of 1918-1943. Also Tsaritsa Eleonore (wife of Tsar Ferdinand I from Saxe-Coburg and Gotha dynasty) and Tsaritsa Giovanna (wife of Tsar Boris III) patronized the BRC. In 1928 the BRC helped a lot to victims of strong Chirpan earthquake in the South Bulgaria. The contribution of BRC in development of healthcare system in Bulgaria was great as a lot of hospitals were built that time as well as first aid training courses for nurses were organized across the country. In 1937 Rapid Medical Assistance was established in Bulgaria, and in 1940 - the Blood Donation.
    6. Also German mint firm C.F. Zimmermann from Pforzheim could produce these crosses.
    7. The most interesting questions are the exact mint companies for this medal (there are no any mintmarks on the Bronze medal...), amount of awarded persons and the period of awarding (I guess the medal was awarded in 1918-1944, but it remains unclear were the medals of the type I awarded till 1929 only when the type II was introduced or together with the type II during the whole period of Tsar Boris III's rule till the abolishment of monarchy?).
    8. Seems to be that this medal (Type I, Bronze class) was worn by its owner very often as the inscription on the reverse side is a little bit frayed (because of cloth friction), the suspension ring was probably replaced that time also...
    9. Hello, dear friends! I would like to collect an information about Bulgarian Red Cross Medal. From what I know at the moment is the following: The medal was instituted by Royal Decree No. 9 on 15 February 1918. Circular medal with laterally-pierced cylinder for ribbon suspension had size 33 mm. The trifold ribbon was red, with white and white-green (alternating narrow strips) strips at the edges. This medal was awarded for acts of philanthropy, charity and humanity during World War I, also for merits to the Red Cross Movement in three classes – Gold (actually the gilt bronze), Silver and Bronze. The Silver class medals were awarded for 15 years of service in the Bulgarian Red Cross, and the Gold class medals - for 20 years of service. The face with three concentric circles – in the center of the innermost circle was a Greek (Geneva) cross, rays around the second circle, the outer circle inscribed БЪЛГАРСКО ДРУЖЕСТВО „ЧЕРВЕНЪ КРЪСТЪ” (“Bulgarian Society of the Red Cross” in Bulgarian). The reverse with a heraldic shield (escutcheon of the German type) supporting the Bulgarian royal crown and bearing the Bulgarian crowned lion rampant with the Saxon coat of arms imposed on its breast; a laurel wreath encircled the shield. There were two types of the medal: Type I – Silver and Bronze classes. The face with vertical hatching of the Greek (Geneva) cross, denoting the heraldic red color (gules); the second circle had the date “1915” at the top (the date of Bulgaria’s entry into World War I); the outer circle inscribed БЪЛГАРСКО ДРУЖЕСТВО „ЧЕРВЕНЪ КРЪСТЪ”. The heraldic shield in the reverse was encircled by a laurel wreath and inscribed below ЗА ПРИЗНАТЕЛНОСТЬ (“for appreciation” in Bulgarian). Type II – Gold and Silver classes, instituted in 1929. The face with red enamel Greek (Geneva) cross; the outer circle inscribed ЗА БЛАГОТВОРИТЕЛНОСТЬ (“for philanthropy” in Bulgarian) below and БЪЛГАРСКО ДРУЖЕСТВО „ЧЕРВЕНЪ КРЪСТЪ” above. The heraldic shield in the reverse was encircled by a laurel wreath and inscribed below ОТЪ ПРИЗНАТЕЛНОСТЬ ("from appreciation" in Bulgarian). Any additional information is very welcome, thanks!!!
    10. So use a polite way for discussions always, Graf! No need to use such erroneous phrases as “young and energetic eager” as you did before, discuss only crosses and their history here! And remember to use type II for Boris III’s Long Service Cross as well as Tsar (preferably) for his royal title to be 100% correct.
    11. Do you mean that first examples of Silver-class medals of Tsar Ferdinand l’s period were minted by L. Chr. Lauer from Nurnberg (famous German mint company, founded in 1790)? Interesting info, thanks. Unfortunatelly, it is impossible to identify the exact mint company for Bronze-class medals of Tsar Boris III’s period, as they don’t have any mint marks or special details for such kind of identification.
    12. Hi, Graf! No, I am not young and I know a lot already, but, of course, always open to a new knowledge))) If you read carefully my note (by the way, I read and write everything very carefully) you should know now that Tsar is more correct word for East-European Slavic monarch (mainly orthodox) than King (mainly catholic West-European monarch). But both variants are widely used in the English-language literature.
    13. Yes, larsb001, a very nice miniature of the officer’s cross for XX years of service from the Boris III’s period! Dear Graf - this is type II (Boris III), not type I (Ferdinand I). Also it is better to use Tsar instead of King for Bulgarian (and for other East and South European Slavic monarchies) highest royal title Nice item also!!!
    14. So, according to the aforementioned journal, this medal was minted also by Carl Poellath Munz- und Pragewerk Schrobenhausen (old and famous German mint company).
    15. What is the name of the book? Need to translate this text from German (which I know not very good), but I have seen some mistakes already, for instance, the medal was introduced in 1881, not in 1883...
    16. Also from Ferdinand I's period as you can see the Bulgarian lion rampant with a shield with the Saxon coat of arms in the reverse side (crosses from Boris III's period didn't have such a shield imposed on the lion's breast). Nice item also, minted by Georg Adam Scheid jewelry factory in Vienna!!! My cross from Boris III's period has no any mintmarks, unfortunatelly....Seems to be that it was made not from silver-plated bronze but from silver-plated white metal.
    17. As for the amount of awarded crosses - may be not huge numbers as Bulgarian army during the Interwar period was quite small according to restrictions of the Treaty of Neuilly (1919) after the country was defeated in WWI, but should be significant numbers indeed. Some short info about Bulgarian army. Before WWI Bulgaria had 3.900 officers and 55.000 soldiers, but the country could mobilize about 500.000 men army during the war time. According to the Treaty of Neuilly (1919) Bulgarian army was restricted to 20.000 volunteers, overall military duty was abolished. Soldiers and NCOs must be served in the army as volunteers not less than 12 years, and officers - not less than 20 years to prevent the formation of army reserve. Also it was allowed to have about 3.000 volunteers for frontier guard and 7.000 volunteers for gendarmerie, police and customs service. There were also restrictions concerning armament. So in 1925 the Bulgarian Army consisted of 1.000 officers, 20.291 soldiers, also 3.738 men of frontier guard and 6.900 gendarmers. According to the Treaty of Neuilly Bulgaria was not allowed to have the navy also except 4 torpedo boats on the Black Sea and 6 motor boats on the Danube river for coast-guard and fishing control.
    18. Hi, Graf! Nice example of Cross for 20 years of service for officers from Ferdinand I's period minted by Rothe from Vienna! Note the characteristic oval green enamel laurel wreath suspension with the Roman numerals "XX". Yes, this is one of the first examples with inverted ring on the face enameled royal medallion, so you can see the inscription "СЛУЖБА ОТЛИЧНА" instead of usual and much more common "ОТЛИЧНА СЛУЖБА". Superb item!!!
    19. There is an information that cross for 20 years of distinguished service for NCOs was introduced on 7 April 1933 only, so there was no cross of such class during Ferdinand I’s rule. Is the information correct?
    20. Does anybody know, how many crosses of type II (Tsar Boris III), Silver class for officers (10 years of service) were awarded during the Interwar period and during World War II? Were they winted in Germany/Bulgaria/Switzerland as many other Bulgarian decorations?
    21. Hello, dear friends! I would like to collect an information about Bulgarian Long Service Cross. From what I know at the moment is the following: The medal was instituted by Princely Decree on 2 August 1889. Leopold-type cross with beaded arms and stippled panels had size 34-37 mm, scroll and laterally-pierced ball suspension, and yellow-black-white trifold ribbon. The cross was awarded to those who served in the army for at least 10 years with diligence, distinguished and exemplary conduct in four classes – Cross for 10 years of service in the army for NCO (gilt bronze), Cross for 20 years of service in the army for NCO (gilt bronze), Cross for 10 years of service in the army for officers (silver-plated bronze or silver-plated white metal), Cross for 20 years of service in the army for officers (green enamel with white-enameled edges, introduced in 1899). There were three types of this cross. The face with a circular central royal medallion bearing the crowned cipher of corresponding monarch circumscribed “ОТЛИЧНА СЛУЖБА” ("excellent service" in Bulgarian), below is the Roman numeral “X” (in the case of 10 years of service) or the cross had suspension of an oval laurel wreath surrounding the Roman numerals “XX” (in the case of 20 years of service). Cross for 20 years of service for officers on the face had a circular central white enamel royal medallion bearing the gilt metal crowned cipher encircled by a red enamel ring inscribed in gilt letters "ОТЛИЧНА СЛУЖБА" (first examples had inverted ring, so that it read “СЛУЖБА ОТЛИЧНА“), the reverse was with a circular central enamel medallion and such crosses had an oval green enamel laurel wreath suspension. Type I with a circular central medallion bearing the crowned cipher “ФI” of the Prince (later - King) Ferdinand I. The reverse with a circular central medallion bearing the Bulgarian crowned lion rampant with a shield with the Saxon coat of arms imposed on its breast. Cross for 20 years of service for officers had on reverse a circular central white enamel medallion inscribed in silver letters "2 АВГУСТЪ 1887" within a beaded border ("2 August 1887" in Bulgarian - the date when Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha became the Prince (Knyaz) of Bulgaria). This cross was issued in 1889-1918. Type II with a circular central medallion bearing the crowned cipher “БIII” of the King (Tsar) Boris III on the face. The reverse with a circular central medallion bearing the Bulgarian crowned lion rampant without shield (cross for 20 years of service for officers had on reverse a circular central red enamel medallion bearing the gilt Bulgarian crowned lion rampant within a beaded border). This cross was issued in 1918-1943. Type III – regency type, similar to Type II but ribbon was in color of Bulgarian flag (white ribbon with red and green stripes near both edges). Any additional information is very welcome, thanks!!!
    22. Bulgarian designers of decorations/engravers/owners of private jewelry and mint workshops: S. Miloshev - Strakhil Miloshev (Страхил Милошев) from Sofia. N. Sobev - Nikola Sabev (Никола Сабев). Onik Odabashian - Оник Одабашян.
    23. Just made a small online search ))) P. Telge - Paul Telge (1846-1909), the German jeweler and goldsmith from Berlin (but I am not sure that he had an own mint firm to produce decorations in large numbers, he was just a court jeweler and medal designer). B. Meyer - Bernhard Heinrich Mayer (1843-1911), the German engraver and founder of the mint firm B.H. Mayer Kunstprägeanstalt in Pforzheim. G. Sheid - Georg Adam Scheid (1838-1921), the German-Austrian jeweler and founder of the large jewelry and silver decoration company G.A. Scheid in Vienna. As for Yugenen Brothers & Co. - the transliteration is completelly wrong, it is hard to understand who they are... Most probably - Fritz Huguenin, the Swiss engraver and founder (together with his brother Albert Huguenin) of the watch-case design and mint company Huguenin Frères et Cie SA in Le Locle.
    24. Thanks, new world! Do you mean the book in English/Bulgarian: Todor Petrov. Bulgarian Orders and Medals. Military Publishing House Ltd. 2005, 326 pages? I saw it in Amazon, perhaps, I will buy it, seems to be a very good and useful book. http://www.shopbulgaria.com/files/products/cache/w_1129240800_5000_4000_petrov.jpg
    25. Hi, ilieff! Yes, the threads are quite similar, at least in the beginning, but I am using a little bit differ style of English )))), also I summarized all info I knew about this medal in my first post. That guy posted his questions not 10 months ago but almost 2 years ago...Perhaps, many people would like to know the same info, also many people read the same sources. I bought my medal quite recently on Internet, may be from that guy, I don’t know But I compared photos, seems to be my medal is slightly differ, but the quality of photos by Frunzich is quite bad. P.S. I would like to visit Bulgaria soon and visit there the National Museum of Military History in Sofia, of course, in addition to many other natural and historical sightseeings
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