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    A Liverpool City Police Long Service Medal in bronze. A rare unissued example, so is in virtually mint condition. Very unusual to find examples in unissued state. Asking £70.00 plus International Tracked postage from Australia of £13. Please PM with any questions. David


  2. I saw 4 of these in one Lot for sale about 18 months ago at a UK auction (DNW I think but don't quote me) and they were estimated at £40 each, finally went for something like £90 each! There will be a box of junk from an old Irish medal mounting shop in an attic out there somewhere worth about a million dollars!
  3. All of the 1901 and 1903 'Visit To Ireland' medals issued to Irish police at the time had a top brooch bar with Shamrock decorations. However, very many of those medals seen for sale now do not have that bar. Where have they all gone? The bars themselves very rarely appear at auction and fetch a very high price- about £60 to £80 each last I saw. Does any one know where they might be available, as I need 2 of them to complete a couple in my collection? Also keen to understand why so many are missing from the medals. Hope to hear! DPK
  4. On close review of the Hagan medal naming, it seems that the rank and name are in a smaller font very similar or identical to the British issues naming style, but his registered police number seems to be the same font but larger- meaning the number was probably added by the issuing Australian force after receiving the named medal from the UK??
  5. See above for example to 'Insp. W.P. Hagan' of Western Australia Police Force- not sure if the Hagan medal was named locally (in Australia) and thus included his rank, or if it came named like that from the UK.
  6. Re my earlier post on the 1973 Western Australia Police Force ranks- having re-read my post I see that red wine and age has affected me more than I had realised. On reflection the ranks were Probationary Constable, Constable, First Class Constable, Senior Constable, 3rd Class Sergeant, 2nd Class Sergeant, 1st Class Sergeant, Inspector, Chief Inspector, Superintendent, Chief Superintendent, Assistant Commissioner, Deputy Commissioner and Commissioner. For what it's worth!
  7. Hi All, Just wondering if there are any opportunities to set up a dedicated forum for those interested in collecting police medals to advertise medals for sale/buy medals(probably UK/Colonies at first but maybe expanded to other police jurisdictions later)? The reason I ask is that I live in Australia but collect UK & Colonial Police Medals- and hunting those that are for sale via internet or various clubs etc is a real task- looking for the needle in a large series of haystacks! Australian auctions of this type of medal are few and far between, UK auctions more plentiful
  8. Hi All, I know that Australian Police Officers also served in a policing role in Cyprus. Not sure if they were seconded to the Cyprus Police or part of a United Nations deployment. Several men in my own force served there, I don't recall any of them wearing ribbons for the GSM but that is not definite- they may have either a GSM or possibly a UN Medal.
  9. Hi BJoW, Each Australian Police Force has a 'Historical Society', almost all sponsored by the Commissioner but run by volunteers. They have access to the Force service records for retired members, and sometimes serving members. They are invariably helpful, and sometimes have detailed records of a recipient. However, not always. In the 'Wilhelm' example above all I could get was his date of birth, date of joining, date of retirement and date of death- nothing else at all on his file about where he was posted or what he did. I vaguely knew his name when I was in the job, I think he was the
  10. The Australian issues of the Police LS&GC Medal are few and far between on the market here. Not sure of how many were issued in the 1956 to 1976 period but there must be hundreds- where they are is a mystery. Probably held by family etc due to the relative recency of issue, recognising almost all recipients would now be aged or no longer with us. It is the same with most Australian Police medals- hardly ever see genuine ones on the market. One problem is that there are many, many very good accurate replica/copy/replacements for these for sale and most are extremely like the originals-
  11. Hi All- regarding Australian Police ranks, they were different from State to State- each force having some ranks quite differently named in each State, some ranks the same title and many of these were different from the UK ranks. Australian rank titles have also changed over the years- example is my State, Western Australia. When I joined in 1973 the ranks, from the bottom up were: Probationary Constable, Constable, First Class Constable, Senior Constable, Sergeant, First Class Sergeant, Second Class Sergeant, Inspector, Chief Inspector, Superintendent, Chief Superintendent, Assistan
  12. Hi All, I am sure you are all aware of the change of manufacturer for this medal- it had been the Royal Mint from 1919 until about 1995 or 1996, when the contract went to the Birmingham Mint (Paul Brewster's excellent book 'For Faithful Service', OMRS 2019 tells the full story of this medal). The Birmingham Mint versions were slightly different from all those pictured here which are Royal Mint issues. The Birmingham versions has a slight 'stouter' suspension claw and 'softer' looking obverse with details just a little less sharp. Image attached to illustrate the two. The contract returned
  13. Further to previous- there are now two additional EIIR obverses for the (1919) Special Constabulary Long Service Medal. The first was when the manufacture of the medal switched from the Royal Mint to the Birmingham Mint in about 1995. The Birmingham Mint version had a slightly less distinct or 'softer' look than the Royal Mint version, and it had a quite different suspender claw. Images show the Birmingham as a heavier style with more vertical claws while the Royal Mint version has a smaller 'barrel' and thinner more horizontal claws. I believe Birmingham Mint lost the contract back to th
  14. I also noticed this- not only the placement of 'Const' is unusual (never seen it there), the quality of the impressed letters seems rough. It may be the light or condition of the medal but the impressions seem to be a little rough or 'jagged' on their edges- all others I have seen are a smooth and almost polished look. The earlier cupro-silver or cupro-nickel versions still haved a very smooth naming style while the later rhodium-plated versions are almost mirror-polished. Have attached images of a rhodium and cupro version for comparison. Is it possible the ebay offering is an unnamed v
  15. OMRS has just released a new publication- "A Guide: Medals & Awards to British Police by Local Authorities of the United Kingdom. Covers over 110 medals & awards issued by Counties, Cities and Borough of the UK to their police. Over 260 colour plates adn believed to cover all the awards issued. Hopefully a very good reference to collectors. Available from the OMRS (UK) online shop.
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