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Hi James, Persian awards are not my field of knowledge. But: "If he says such different things to different people reading him, he must be wrong somewhere along the line!" ?????? I'm a German, and I'm able to read German. Gritzner wrote nothing like "With the Fifth class the ribbon is blue for Persians, green for foreigners and for "Berfer" ( can't find translation) red or white ribbon." If someone is not able to read and to understand German, especially the old script, see "Berfer" instead of Perser, and others agree with the wrong interpretation, than I think, that we must find another base for discussions. For what is it good, to quote with old regulations in 1836 and 1856, when we are writing here about the Gritzner from 1893. There are new regulations in 1872: "A major modification of the order in 1872 simplified the variety of classes and degrees down to a manageable, five. The differences between awards to foreigners and Persians ceased, though the military and civil divisions and the different coloured ribbons remained." Gritzner wrote in 1893, that the "Löwen- und Sonnenorden" had the same rank system as the French Légion d’honneur (hinsichtlich der Klassen rangierend genau mit denen des französischen Ordens der Ehrenlegion). Therefore it is not the lowest class for a colonel as before, see the regulations from 1836 and 1856! In the here linked sources I cannot find anything, that is against the assignments from Gritzner and Mericka. But I can find a comment about the 1856 firman: "The 1856 firman is extremely confusing in that it tries to deal with the extension and modification of the Order of the Lion and Sun, at the same time as instituting the Decoration of the Royal Portrait. The paragraphs dealing with different matters are often badly set out and intermingled. Even the terminology is frequently haphazard." Uwe

Hi James, "So if he is wrong on the L&S, ..." Why is Gritzner wrong on the L&S? We can find the same description in Gritzner (1893) and Mericka (1969): Blue for the court, green for foreigners and red or white for (other) Persian citizens. He don't write anything about the grade of the award in combination with the different colours. Uwe

II. Stufe (25) http://www.ritterkre...auer-Ludwig.pdf Uwe

Hi http://www.quicksale...eschler-/938334 Uwe

Hi, this is a nice mini too, and the ribbons don'l look to be in newer condition than others... I hope, that it is allowed here, because there is no real mini on it? Uwe

The Hauptmann signed as seccond-in-command of the Abteilungs-Kommandeur (stv. = stellvertender ...). uwe

It is a badge of the "Deutscher Soldaten- und Kameradschaftsbund in Bayern". I think, that it is made post WWII. Troy, you sold your badge last year for a high price! Uwe

Hi Tom, nice pieces, but please, an officer never wore a "Schützemschnur" (Post3). Uwe

Nice joke or fun-mail or Anekdote or Witz or ...! You can find it in different forums since 2005 (or older?). But, the "Versorgungsnummer" 6510-12-....... is for German made bandaging material Uwe

Correct: Uwe

I think, that it is for local sport events in 1935/1936, with space to complete the name of the winners. uwe

Different sports badges with the flag:

Hi, das halte ich persönlich für sehr an den Haaren herbeigezogen. It is for me far-fetched in any case. Uwe

Hi, this "Oberfelwebel" shoulder board is the special rank "Unterarzt", it is for a certified doctor (approbierter Arzt). The next rank is "Assistenzarzt". A medical Oberfeldwebel don't have the caduceus. Uwe

Medal for a German (DDR) record in the field of athletics, in original in the matching case:

Robert, it is not usual, but you can find it on several documents of the DDR, during all years. The date 23. Oktober 19.. was preprinted, because it was the day of the foundation of the DRK in the DDR (23. Oktober 1952). And the 23. Oktober was the day of the award ceremony. Uwe

Please see here: http://gmic.co.uk/in...__fromsearch__1 Uwe

Hi BURGERHAUS, It seems, that the document was printed in 1983. From 1981 to 1987 Siegfried Akkermann was the president of the DRK in the DDR. The signature is not original, it is a printed facsimile. Uwe

"In the kind of scenario Chris suggested where maybe the Germans were using a controlled explosion perhaps to clear a blockage on the railway line, any injury would be considered an accident, and the rules clearly stated "Illness and accidents , even if in the face of the enemy, but without intervention of enemy fire, are not eligible for the award" Not correct. Please see here: "Zusätze des Oberkommando des Heeres ... IV. Durchführung der Verleihung ... 2. Verwundung beim Umgang mit Minen: Die Voraussetzungen für die Verleihung des VA. sind als gegeben anzusehen, wenn Soldaten beim Umgang mit eigenen oder feindlichen Minen - Aufnehmen und Entschärfen eigener oder feindlicher Minen oder Blindgänger bzw. Legen oder Verlegen eigener oder fendlicher Minen gegen den Feind - ohne eigenes Verschulden verwundet worden sind. ... OKH., 15.4.43" The conditions for the award of the badge are given, when soldiers without own fault were wounded when dealing with their own or enemy mines. Uwe

Hi, Bei Minensprengung Verletzung des rechten Fußes. > injury of the right foot Chris, "Verletzung" could be both, civilian and military. "Er erlitt bei einem Verkehrsunfall eine schwere Verletzung" > serious injury "Verwundung" is more military, but a "Wunde" (wound) is civilian and military. See in Post 5 on page 34, Im Kriege: Verwundungen und ... "Er hat sich verletzt und hat jetzt eine Wunde am Fuß" "Er wurde verwundet und hat jetzt eine Wunde am Fuß." There is a date difference, 17. Januar and 18. Januar, but that is not unusual. Is there no other entry about his destination after May 1945? Uwe

Hi redeagle, "... while the one I am showing doesn't" I mean, that I see the dots on your picture in Post 1, especially the right dot: "Ask to the seller to send you close up of the medal and more particulary about the dots." That's right, and I'm convinced, that a better picture will show the dots. Uwe

Document for a national sports event 1969, participation in the exhibition "Art and Sport":

Ich kann Dir ein Buch mit der Familie zeigen. Please see here: http://www.degener-a...cd40a1da46.html Uwe

Hi Matthew, with magnification and brightening I can see dots on the picture? Please compare: Uwe