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What kind of a two place bar are you talking about? Can you be a little more specific? Are there any specific bars on which these two ribbons would fit to? I'm not a native english speaker so I'm not exactly sure what are you talking about.

Not familiar with the UK scene these days, but I would think a military tailor should have and might sell the two place bar to which you could affix your ribbons and devices.

On an unrelated note is there a less cumbersome, more euphonious name than "NATO Non-article 5 Balkans medal" for these awards?

Peter

I've been awarded these two medals durring my two balkans tours. First one is the new tipe of NATO Non-article 5 Balkans medal and the second is the well known EU ALTHEA ESDP medal.

For the last 2 years I've been trying to find someone who could make me a complete ribbon bar with both Althea and Balkans ribbon bar pins for my mess dress uniform but so far I couldn't find anyone who would actually have these ribbon bar pins in stock (the original firm that makes these doesn't accept paypal so they can't help me). Particullary the new Balkans medal seems to be extremely rare. Which is strange, as a lot of troops, serving in Kosovo, received these medals in the past few years. There's plenty of other Nato medals arround for sale but this particular one seems to be quite hard to find.

So since I can't get a newly made ribbon bar anywhere, I thought I would try to mount my original ribbon bar pins myself. Are there any suggestions how could I mount both of them together? Are there any medal acessories I could use?

Yes this was the one. It was also listed here in the marketplace. It is impossible to sell anything soviet lately, unless it's for an "incredible price" It is unbelievable, how soviet awards lost their value in the last few years. Anyway, it's gone now and it was my last soviet award. Time to move on.

I am sorry that I missed this... was it the one on the WAF, for the incredible price?

This was sold before anyone posted any replys. Thanks anyway.

Reverse:

Hi guys,

I just need a few "thumbs up" (or "thumbs down" ) for a potencial buyer. Seriously, could you guys comment a little about originality of this piece... I'm sure it's authentic but I need a few independent opinions.

Thanks!

Here is a better pic of this beautiful award. Those that were previously posted are horrible.

I still haven't got the actual translations, even after more than a year...

Thank you for your help Koopyetz. As for citation, I have seen better citations for Medals for bravery and military merits, than this. I must say I expected something more spectacular, as it's a rather high order.

Citation close up.

Award citation:

Service record 3:

Service record 2:

Service record 1:

Award card reverse:

Here it is, my pride in my soviet collection. Finnaly researched after one year of waiting. However, G. has the electronic translations and I can't seem to reach him via email. He's probably traveling again. So I would like to ask someone to do a brief translation for my jewel.

Award card front:

I got a mail from him too a few days back. He told me that the research for my Lenin is ready, but nothing new of my Nevsky. Man I hope they find something for this piece as it's the nicest of all soviet awards in my collection but unfortunately the only one that remains unresearched.

Indeed a nice, modest price for such a nice order group. Usualy everything, that is sold there as a documented group, reaches five numbers.

Also, a lot nice groups and singles are sold there last few months. For some time it looked as if the site run out of inventory.

Absolutely breathtaking. I have no other words to describe this.

I'm also sure that I got the wrong research for OGPW. But as for Red banner, I think I'll never know. It could be a 7, or 1. I'm hoping that the guy who saw the original, clearly saw a 7... I think I see a horizontal line in the middle of the last number, and the clerk could write a weird 7 cos he ran out of space...

Too bad, cos research for the red banner is really interesting, it mentions tank destroyers and 8 destroyed german tanks...

The first one should be 290 857 and the second one should be 262 294.

Thanks for any opinions.

The second is an order of the great patriotic war 2. class:

I just got back a bunch or researches and I'm not sure for these two if the numbers on the actual award card and in translation documents match. It's hard to say, so I'd like to ask you guys for opinion.

First is an order of the red banner, which if it came for the right person, showed nice interesting combat story...

Indeed. A scout, with combat decorations: OG 3, OG 2, Valor medal and Stalingrad and VOG medal.

Translation 2:

<h1 style="text-align: center;" align="center">Record card</h1>

Order book No Б-992904

1. Last name: NARMATOV

2. First, middle names: Tishabay

3. Military rank: Guards Lance-Corporal

4. Sex: Male

5. Year of birth: 1919

6. Place of birth: Uzbek Soviet Socialist Republic, Fergana region, Kaganovichesky district

7. Party membership since: Non-party

8. Education: primary

9. Nationality: Kirghiz

10. In the Red Army since: October 1939 till August 1946

11. Place of service (name of the unit) and position occupied when awarded: 5^th gun artillery regiment, 2^nd artillery division, 39^th Army, 3^rd Baltic Front ? scout

12. Current place of service and position: Uzbek Soviet Socialist Republic, Fergana region, Kaganovichesky district, Akhun-Babaev village/Soviet, Baykal-Minal ? tractor driver

13. Home address of the awardee: Kaganovichesky district, Akhun-Babaev village/Soviet, Baykal-Minal

14. Record of previous awards

Names of orders, medals

Their numbers

Document numbers

Ground for award

CHECKED

For Valor medal

Order to 5^th Guards artillery regiment, № 6/N of April 19, 1944

Order of Glory, 3^rd class

Order to 2^nd artillery division, № 15/N of December 15, 1944

Order of Glory, 2^nd class

Order to 39^th Army № 0315 of March 20, 1945

For the Defense of Stalingrad

Decree of December 22, 1942

For Victory Over Germany medal

Decree of May 9, 1945

Signature of awardee (signed) ________________________

Data correctness and signature of awardee

attested by:

Kaganovichesky district military commissar Major (signed) /Radzhanov/

March 28, 1947

Translation:

AWARD CITATION

1.

First, middle and last names

Narmatov Tishabay

2.

Rank

Guards Lance-Corporal

3.

Position, unit

Scout-observer of the 9^th battery, 5^th Guards Gun Artillery order of the Red Banner regiment

<h3 style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; text-align: center;" align="center"> </h3> <h3 style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; text-align: center;" align="center">Is recommended for the order of Glory, 2^nd class</h3>

4.

Year of birth

1919

5.

Nationality

Kirghiz

6.

Party membership

C.P.S.U.(B) member

7.

Participation in the civil war and other military actions aimed at the defense of the USSR (where and when)

The Great Patriotic War since June 1941

8.

Wounds or contusions received during the Patriotic War

2 wounds

9.

In the Red Army since

October, 1939

10.

Drafted by what district military commissariat

Kaganovichsky district military commissariat, Fergana region

11.

Previous awards

Order of Glory, 3^rd class. Order to 2^nd Guards APKDP, General Headquarters Reserve No 15/N of July 15, 1944;

For Valor medal. Order to 5^th Guards Gun Artillery order of the Red Banner regiment No 6/N of April, 19, 1944

For Defense of Stalingrad medal

12.

Permanent home address (of the prospective awardee or his/her family)

Kaganovichsky district, Fergana region

On January 29, 1945 together with a section leader and a scout he secretly approached the enemy?s battle safeguarding and using a submachine-gun shot down a machine-gun crew, two captured machine-guns they handed over their infantry subunits.

On January 26, 1945 under severe mortar enemy?s fire, having come forward behind our infantry?s dislocation he discovered a mortar battery and enemy?s observing post in the area of 33.0 height which were suppressed with the fire of our battery?s.

On February 03, 1945 he discovered an accumulation of enemy?s infantry and tanks near Maulen village. By his instructions our batteries opened fire and successfully repulsed enemy?s counterattack.

Comrade Normatov deserves the government award, order of Glory, 2^nd class.

Commander of the 5^th Guards Artillery, order of the Red Banner

Guards Lieutenant Colonel (signed) /Gorev/

February 12, 1945

<h4 style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;"> II. Conclusion of the Higher Command</h4>

Deserves the government award, Order of Glory, 2^nd class

Commander of 6^th Guards Gun Artillery Sevastopol Brigade

Guards Colonel (signed)

March 1, 1945

Deserves the government award, Order of Glory, 2^nd class

Commander of 2^nd Guards Artillery Perekops order of the Red Banner and order of Suvorov division of General Headquarters Reserve breach

Guards Major-General of Artillery (signed)

March 02, 1945

Deserves the government award, Order of Glory, 2^nd class

Artillery Commander of 39^th Army

Lieutenant-General of Artillery (signed) /Bazhanov/

March 09, 1945

Award with the order of Glory, 2^nd class

Commander of 39^th Army

Lieutenant-General (signed) /Ljudnikov/

Member of 39^th Army Military Counsil

Major-General /Boyko/ (signed)

March 16, 1945

By order to 39^th Army No 0345 of March 20, 1945 awarded with the order of Glory, 2^nd class.

Chief assistant of the 2^nd section of personnel department of 39^th Army

Captain (signed) /Krylov/ April 18, 1945