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Gentlemen!!! Okay each chapter in the third book starts with a photo of the order of the recipients like this one. then you have the list of every recipient and his status listed in the year they got this order.

Here is the complete list. And yes, there are documents in the archive of Wolfenbüttel.

Well let me state, that the list in the Hof and Staatshandbuch from 1907 maybe 1909 on only shows the names of people living in the duchy of Brunswick and not the people from outside anymore. They also only list the names of the people still alive, so these lists aren't complete!

Well I was faced with the same topic for my books on the orders and medals of Brunswick. I thought on publishing the waterloo medal owners along to all the owners of the order Henry the Lion but decided against it, it would have meant another 250 pages or more on the names, units, etc ... I can tell that the book / lists shown in my last posting still is one of the most read lists in the archive. But sorry to say that, there is no digital version of it available. I might bring out an adendum to my books and maybe I should insert the list od all waterloo medal owners in it, as I have the whole list on my PC. might be an idea to follow on.

Hello TJLA, if you are talking about the waterloo medals, then yes they still exists in the archive of the duchy of Brunswick located in Wolfenbüttel. See the photo attached. If you are talking about medals from Brunswick in general then there are more lists to be found on nearly every medal that was founded but all at different sources.

Absolutely not, he could be a civilian and having a higher grade in the civil status lists. I just started with the officers, because it was easy to spot the saxonians in it. It is much harder with the civilians.

wow just white and blue on yours Walter, Congrats on this pure bavarian beauty! I wonder why he didnt have the KDM on it, because he don't like to wear prussian stuff?

Okay, so we need to start again. What I can tell you is, that the minature looks like the big crosses from Siebrecht, so our man got his officers cross from Brunswick before may 1912. Well this argument is only true, if the miniatures also followed the change from tail down to tail up on the guelphic horse. If I found the time I will have another look into my lists from brunswick, to see if I can find more saxonians in it.

I checked my lists and at first glance I found these two officers from Saxony, if he was a military man, you might go along with these names. If he was civilian I do need a name to check it. Frhr v. Könneritz, Karl Wagner, Erich

Great photo Komtur! Thanks 4 that

well I have written the books on Brunswick and the officers cross was awarded 220 times, so a bit more than just 5! I can check a name for you, if you get me on from the other decorations. By the way congratulation to this great mini chain, I have never seen an officers cross on a chain like this before.

huh! Wouldn't this be a contradiction in its self? A french wearing an ek2 from 1939? Or this one belonged to a guy who served in the legion after the war or very unlikly a member of the french wallonian ss,

If you want to dig deeper into this kind of matter, there is no other way than to buy yourself some good books on this topic. I would recommend the Frank Wernitz Books.

By Frankenstein - Bar you mean it is a modern creation to harm collectors? The first time that I saw this bar, I said to myself: wow, could this combinantion be really true? A KO3 combined with a KO4 with this ribbon, the HOH with that ribbon and the RAO3 with crown but without bow? But then I read all your opionions on it, like rick, etc... and told myself: okay I am not an expert on prussia, so what do I know to tell my doubts? But yes even the fact that we can't find a possible id of the owner makes it hard to believe that this one is an original one from the German Empire. If it would be, it would be certainly a very impressive one. But coming back to my question: the KO4 on this ribbon without the red cross on the order, who could get this one and for what kind of reasons, someone wrote here that this happened. So I would love to learn more on this. Thanks!