LuckySlevin

Hi, Thank you both for your comments. I would like to hope that the way the swords are added is due to the necessity to convert a peacetime to a military time. Adding few more photos: Also below is the full bar, to which I don't have questions: @Graf, if by any case you have any examples of orders with similar (not the most professional) swords addition that would be very helpful. Thank you, Lucky

Hi Gentlemen, Have you ever seen this kind of swords on the Order of the Crown? I know that during the WWI it was probably common to reuse peace-time decoration and to adapt them for war merit but I have never seen this "unprofessional" swords attachment. Thank you in advance for your opinions. Best, Lucky

Thank you, was really happy to see this tiny "S"! Probably one of the reason could not find him in Hof- und Staatshandbuch des Königreichs Bayern 1914 is that most/part of awards could have been awarded during the war period. May be will have some luck at some point finding him.

Hi Gentlemen, I would like to present a Bavarian civilian bar that I purchased recently. 1.König-Ludwig-Kreuz 1916 2.Silberne Zivilverdienstmedaille 3.Luitpoldkreuz 40 Jahre im Staats- und Gemeindedienst 4.Silberne Medaille des Verdienstordens vom Heiligen Michael 5.Sachsen Ehrenkreuz (Allgemeines Ehrenzeichen) 1876 6.Fürstlicher Hausorden von Hohenzollern Silberne Verdienstmedaille 7.Franz Joseph Orden Silbernes Verdienstkreuz mit Krone with repair. Zivilverdienstmedaille is probable a late awarded one as only S is seen from LOSCH: I was trying to search him in Hof- und Staatshandbuch des Königreichs Bayern 1914, but so far no success. I am not sure if there are later Bavarian Hof- und Staatshandbuch and will be very grateful if anyone could suggest how else could search him. Thank you in advance, Lucky

Hi, Interesting remarks. I don't see for now a reason why there is such a difference in preservation of last 4 awards. But the seller ( and me too) could not correctly identify the last ribbon as being a Dannebrog one. I think the order of the sword was removed and preserved separately as it was made from gold and clearly few times higher of price than other decorations on the bar. I think the bar itself gives an impression that there was a hard removal of last orders from the way it os deformated.

Unfortunately he already sold it, I was too slow. Will have to find it somewhere else.

Hi Great Dane, Thank you a lot for the information. Now on the hunt for the missing pieces!

Understood, thank you a lot for sharing the information !!! Thank you for mentioning the 2 names, it is quite surprising that this one was identifiable! This is the order of Sword he is offering: He says it is in gold, 17.69G and did not mention any hallmarks. I guess this one fits well into the story ?

roughly 800 eur and the Order has some email losses-I think the price is too high.

Dimitrie Poenaru (1860-1932) should be our guy. Found him in a book: Order of Takovo knight 1884 Order of Dannebrog Officer 1895 Order of the Sword 1895 Knight Order of Saint Alexander Bulgaria 1898 25 year Service 1904 French Legion of Honour 1909 Order of the Romanian Crown Officer 1912 Order of the Star Romania Officer 1914 retired after 1915 Another photo of the last 2 ribbons: The last one is obviously Dannebrog. Also the seller actually has an Order of the Sword which he claimed to come with the bar but I was unsure because of unclear ribbon and I was clearly wrong. There were only 2 guys who received the Dannebrog in 1895 in Officer class. In the book it is not mentioned the Medalia „Avântul Țării” but he is mentioned in a document related to operations of of the fleet on the Danube during the Balcan Wars. There is even a photo but unfortunately it is very unclear: For some reason he did not put on the bar the very first Order of Takovo, the bar was made after 1914, when he received the Order of the Star.

Unfortunately it is not Constantin Manescu as awards do not match. For Dimitrie Poenaru still trying to find out.

Hi JohanH, Thank you a lot for your answer! Indeed I agree with you that 9 ribbon seems to be of Danish Dannebrogorden because the white edge is narrow while Danilo Order would have a wider one. Also the Swedish Order of Sword would go better with the Danish one even if the ribbon looks to be wrong but may be the wearer just put the closest ribbon he could find. I did not know that there were a lot of Romanians who received the Order of Sword. Could you please give some context how this could happen and if you are aware of some lists. Thank you in advance, Lucky

Hi, I am soon to receive the following bar which unfortunately had seen some difficult times but definitely belonged to a Romanian Military officer with an interesting career: I would be very grateful if you could share your opinions on the story of this guy and the missing orders I need to complete it: Here is what I think but I can be wrong: I think it is obvious it is a pre WW1 bar and given that all of the orders are peace decorations (expect the medal for the Balcanic war), the missing orders should be also peace ones: 7. It is obvious that it is a Saint Alexander 4th class without swords 8. Order or the Iron Crown -I guess the non-war issue which should be in gold -I think very rare for a Romanian to get 9. Order of Danilo 4th class or 5th class but I think given the rank of other orders it should be 4th class. Is it possible to find the wearer ? Are there somewhere available lists of Romanians who got the Danilo order or the Iron Crown as they should not be too many? Any comments are welcome! Thank you in advance, Lucky

Hi Gentlemen, There is the following medal bar which may be identifiable: Unfortunately no pictures of the back, but the medals and ribbons seem to be fine and have similar wear. I looked in 24,28 Rangliste des Deutschen Reichsheeres but could not find the BH, OMK3 and BT4 combo. Would be very grateful if anybody could suggest where I could look. Thank you a lot in advance. Lucky

Thank you both for your comments. I just wanted to say that I contacted the seller and asked if they have any details of provenance or where from they have the bar. The seller kindly told me that he is selling a lot of medals from different sellers and he can not check with everyone the provenance... However on his website he has very few medal bars and mainly simple medals... Given that on his website he is also selling all the simple medals separately I am a little bit afraid that this one could be a made up medal bar. May be I am too sceptical.