I'm still interested in these two. I'm wandering if these may be original contemporary issue items. I've previously posted these in this topic but wandered if anyone else has seen these exact types. They're aluminium and obviously come from the same factory... I'm guessing Ukraine. The interesting thing is the reverse designs are different to the obverse. The reverse of the Ukraine Sea Guard has the impression of a Russian Sea Guard badge of the same period. So is this a company making both the Ukrainian and Russian Sea Guard badges under contract but cutting costs by using one reverse die to form the badge shape or is it just a cheaply produced later copy? The other Russian sub badge has a surface ship reverse die. Could these still be correct or are these definitely modern restrikes?