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    1. Mega, Lilo, et al, At the recent DNW Auction I managed to get an example of the SLI medal - perhaps not as cheap as I had anticipated at GBP260 + hammer, but nonetheless it is a nice piece and of the standard independence format. I attach images of the obverse and reverse for your attention. Kind regards, Owain
    2. Not known to me - it looks so awful it could possibly be real, but I tend to side with Ed on this. Owain
    3. Megan. Great - many thanks, Breats stars: Noble Saee'eedee Order (sash - red with green central stripe?). Brillliant Star of Zanzibar & neck badge (sash is red with white edge stripes and not worn ). Miniatures Um... No 2 Saee'eedee Order? Owain
    4. James, Many thanks - my e-mail is rawrees@yahoo .co.uk. Owain
    5. Gentlemen, I have recently obtained a small, 30mm diameter, circular gilt medal with loop suspension: Obverse: Five pointed star and inscription above and below "The Kingdom of Morocco". Reverse : A laurel wreath with the inscripton "Hassan The Second". This is an unknown medal to me - was there an accession or coronation medal for Hassan II? Any ideas? Owain P.S. Image to follow.
    6. Gentlemen, I suspect that professional collectors of Iraqi awards are few and far between however there are many many collectors of quality orders regardless of the country of the award and this allied with the souvenir market is what has driven up the price of the orders. With regard to medals they seem to be still fairly cheap - if one waits long enough most of the medals do still appear at reasonable prices, however there are some genuine scarce items such as the King Faisal Bravery series and here collectors of British medals relating to Iraq have driven prices up but such theatre located inflation is not unique to Iraq. I have recently purchased a good condition Order of Um Al Marek 3rd Class with sash for $850 - not cheap but to my mind not a "rip off" for an uncommom award and I think a fair deal for all concerned. Equally I have refused to pay $2,100 for a repaired Order of the Republic, Military 2nd Class without ribbon. (I would be interested to know how many of either order were issued?) Ultimately as we all know we pay what we are prepared or indeed an afford to pay - unfortunately the collector instinct often clouds any economic sense! What would we do if an Order of King Faisal came for auction........? Regards, Owain
    7. Dear Mr. Mackinlay, A brief note of thanks for your most comprehensive responses to this matter of identifying the unit. "Local Service List" is half the battle! It would be nice from my own point of view to identify the "H" as Hadramaut but as yet unproven. Indeed the Qu'aiti Sultanate provided Arabn irregulars to the Hyderabad court and the current Sultan's mother - in her early 90's and unfortunately ailing - is a granddaughter of a Nizam of Hyderabad. I have had the good fortune to visit the Hadramaut on a number of ocassions and would not use the description lawless as I have been received with great hospitality and indeed it is an imperssive place to visit. For details of the awards of the Qu'aiti Sultanate I would refer you to the article I had published in JOMSA a few years ago. With regard to local units in the Hadramaut there are occasionally available in the souk in Sana'a GSM's (clasp "Arabian Peninsula") to the MRA (Mukalla Regular Army) and the QAC (Qu'aiti Armed Constabulary) and I remain on the look out for one to the HBL (Hadhrami Bedouin Legion). I hope to visit Sana's again at the end of November. Again thank you for your highly informative posts and I look forward to a firm identification of (H.G Arab)! Owain
    8. Michael, Interesting point - the naming clearly has brackets so it could be Sepoy Hyde Ali (otherwise known or registered as H.G. Arab)? Owain
    9. Thankyou - nonetheless nothing ventured nothing gained. I've had a look at Magor but no success - perhaps I will need to look at the PRO's Medal Roll File 171/56. Another visit to London. These exotic units are so much more fun - the chase for knowledge....... Regards, Owain
    10. Gentlemen, I have recently purchased an ASM EVIIR with clasps "Somaliland 1902-04" and "Jidballi" to: Sepoy Hyde Ali (H.G.Arab) L.S.L. Does anyone have any idea as to what these unit initials stand for? It has been suggested "(Home Guard Arab) Local Somali Levy"? Many thanks, Owain
    11. James, Thanks and good luck. I will in due course draft a brief follow up to my June 2005 OMRS article including the illustration of this order and the details of Rudolph Said-Reute - this is an important part of the history of the develoment of awards in Arabia. I hope that I am able to get an illustration of the reverse and the dimensions of the badge. With kind regards, Owain
    12. James, You argue the case well and I agree. I seem to recall seeing a picture of this gentlemen some years ago and being unable to identify this order. Do you have access to further details of this book? Thaks, Owain
    13. Ed, James, et al, Further to the above I copy an extract from the article I had published in the June 2005 Volume of the OMRS Journal: "In Muscat itself there is superb museum by the name of Bait Al Zubair (House of Al Zubair). This private museum, opened in February 1998, whilst displaying one of the largest private collections of Omani artefacts, has a key focus of the promotion, preservation and study of the heritage of Oman. The museum was founded by His Excellency Mohammad Al Zubair, Advisor to His Majesty Sultan Qaboos bin Said for Economic Planning Affairs and former President of Sultan Qaboos University, and it is situated in the locale of his family?s former home originally founded by his late father Sheikh Al Zubair bin Ali in 1914. The house built by Sheikh Al Zubair bin Ali was one of the largest in Muscat. It was a gathering place for many people and its doors open to welcome guests around the clock. Statesman, personalities, poets and scholars frequently visited and the house became a part of Muscat?s heritage. Sheikh Al Zubair bin Ali was a distinguished pillar of Omani society who served three former Sultans. He started his career, as a clerk to in Sultan Fasial bin Turki?s reign, became Minister of Justice and Courts under Sultan Taimour bin Turki and finally advisor to Sultan Said bin Taimour. Illustration No. 3 ? Presentation Certificate Amongst the various personal artefacts on display belonging to Sheikh Al Zubair bin Ali is a highly decorated presentation certificate to Sheikh Al Zubair bin Ali from Sultan Taimour bin Faisal dated 21 Jumada Al Awal 1341, A.H., corresponding to 9 January 1923, A.D.. A translation of the certificate reads as follows, ?From Taimour Bin Faisal, This is to certify that the faithful Haj Zubair Bin Ali Bin Juma was appointed by us to be as a friend and companion in the days of our father. He continued to be with us and advised us for our good for a long time until he worked with our father. Even though he stayed in his position until our father died and he is satisfied of his innocence. We let him remain in his position because he was hard working. In 1333 Higri when we first gave our orders to have the Honourable Sa?eedee Order, we granted him the mentioned Order from the First Degree of the Second Level to be as a witness of our satisfaction of his work. No one has ever got this Order before him in our Government. In 1337 when we gave orders to open the Justice Court, we appointed him as a Consultant and Assistant of its Director brother Nader Bin Faisal. In 1339 when we gave our orders to form the Ministry Council, we appointed him as Minister of Justice and the fourth member of the members of the Ministry. Hence we issued this certificate as proof of our happiness of his services and to mark our granting of the Order to him. Issued on 21 Jumada Al Awal.? Illustration No. 4 ?Inscription on top of Case Illustration No. 5 ? Maker?s Name on inside of Case Illustration No. 6 - Fitting for Medal on inside of Case In addition to the above certificate there is also a medal case - alas empty. This is a dark blue leatherette oblong case of 8.5 cm by 14 cm and bears on the centre of the lid the embossed gold Arabic calligraphic monogram, ?The Sa`eedeeya State of Oman? Sa`eedee being the dynastic name of the ruling family of Oman. Whilst there is no award evident the case bears evidence of the imprint of a multi-pointed circular award with possibly some form of crown suspension and ribbon. The case is of English manufacture and bears on the inside of the lid the following details, "Kenning & Son, Goldsmiths, Little Britain & Aldersgate St., London." This company is now part of the London jewellers and regalia manufacturers Toye, Kenning and Spence of Great Queen Street." ] From study of the illustration from the Indus Collection award I am convinced that they are one and the same indeed the calligraphy on the medal is identical to that on the presentation case. The case indicates a space for a suspension brooch and thus perhaps all that is now missing in this research is the pattern of the ribbon. With regard to the number of classes I would infer from the wording of Sheikh Al Zubair bin Ali?s certificate where he is awarded the ?Order from the First Degree of the Second Level? that it was a multi-class order. James 's illustration could to bear this out but is not clear enough to come to a firm conclusion. Does anyone have any contacts with the Indus Gallary to obtain the dimensions of the badge on display and an image of the reverse? Many thanks, Owain. P.S. I now note that the Indus Numismatic Gallery is a dealer and not a public institution - if the purchaser of this award would like to contact me off thread by private message with further dimensions I would be grateful.
    14. The lower sword with its double point is modelled as "Zulfikar" the double bladed sword of Imam Ali and there is an Iranian Order of this name which bear two crossed "Zulfikars". Owain
    15. Wil & Co., To continue the theme I recently in Riyadh obtained a EIIR BEM, Civil, in its case to: ABDUL KERIM MOURSI ABOU SHOUK but to date no success in tracking it down! I will have to persevere. The name to my mind is not Saudi and the medal may well have travelled from afar. Owain
    16. Wil, One shouldn't be envious but............mabruk! Owain
    17. Wil, I agree with Ed as well - great photo and great evidence of the wearing of a Khartoum Star - unique? Owain
    18. Inscription reads Jumhour Masri - Republic of Egypt 4th Owain
    19. Ed, You are a star - this is, I think, and want to believe, an example of the Noble Saeedee Order of Oman from the time of Sultans Faisal or Taimour - please refer to my OMRS article on this amazingly scarce award - indeed this is the only picture I have seen. The Arabic appears to read "Al Dowla Al Saeed Al Omania" (The Saeedee State of Oman). I believe the Omani flag at this time c.1910 -1920's was plain red. The date bar would correspond with 1910 or thereabouts. I am on leave in UK so have no access to my files on this, thus I am reaching for elusive information which is lodged in the far recesses of my seemingly atrophied brain! Any chance of its dimensions or a reverse image? Mabruk! Of course I could be wrong........ Owain
    20. Is this a diamond booch badge possibly similar to the Order of Glory badge issued to Glubb? Owain
    21. My own view is similar to James's in that it is not an order or award rather some form of civil badge. The style of suspension loop would appear t rule out jewellery which was my first though. James's comment concerning Government badges is, I think, correct. - both Egyptian and Libyian Senator and Deputy badges of office are relatively plain and in silver - both by Bichay - and thus this particluar piece would be out of this particular league. One observation to bear in mind and supporting the Iraqi provenance, as if the case and crown were not enough, is that the blue enamel, which appears to be chipped or missing at the bottom where the two "bands" join and top right, allude, or to my mind anyway, to the two rivers Tigris and Euphrates. Finally with the exception of the star with stones the other stars look quite ugly and appear to be unsuitable - escpecially the larger one - are you convinced that they belong with this piece? Owain
    22. Lorenzo, The first is the "Qaddisiyah Hero" badge/award/order instituted as part of the 1980's review of Iraqi awards - can you include a scan of the reverse? Please refer to your image of the very large display collar with assorted badges hanging from it. I think you are correct with regard to the star - it is some form of police badge - although not clear, I have seen similar items, and the centre has the word "shurta" (police) on it. Please post close up to be sure. Owain
    23. Holger, Can you provide a close up of the obverse & reverse of the combat agaist Oman medal - thanks. Paul, The Star is a Hero of Yemen star - also manufactured in Budapest and of very poor quality - almost plastic like in its finish. Owain
    24. Nice items. The Order of Labour - top right is a one class order and the one with the blue ribbon appears to have "borrowed" the ribbon from one of the three classes of the Order of Devotion. The two neck orders are nice - manufactured in Budapest and unfortunately they do not match the neck badge in the image I submitted. What is the red and green ribboned award? Regards, Owain
    25. Hi, it's the "Order of the Republic" not Qassim. Nice piece! Owain PS. The reverse inscription has slipped by 90 degrees - the date should be at the bottom.
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