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There you find all recipients. But it must be the reprint version of 2011 (!), because this is inclusive the edition of 1901 (recipients 1901-1901), Supplement 1908 (recipients 1901-1907) and addition of Eckart Henning/Werner Seeger from 1973/74 (recipients 1909-1918(34)).
Regards, Komtur.
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1 hour ago, Stogieman said:
Someone was very lucky!
Why? 🤔
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2 hours ago, pinpon590 said:
No, that's a commander cross : vertical loop and height 8 cm.
An other exemple, who has been sold around 4500$ on emedals...
That was yesterday on Ebay indeed one of the very scarce awarded Komturkreuz with swords by Wagner in silver gilded from 1917/18.
The linked cross sold by Emedals is not one of the awarded crosses before 1918. IMHO these could be made by Zimmermann before and after the war e.g. for private purchase. This type of inisgnia was also given by the exiled Kaiser in the later Doorn period.
Compare the Wagner cross (awarded in 1918 to Generalleutnant von Eberhardt) :
and a Zimmermann (?) cross (given to Dr. Adalbert Remmert in 1932 by the exiled Kaiser):
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On 15/01/2024 at 17:15, JohanH said:
... BTW. Does it exist any rolls over awarded orders? I would like to know the exact date for my guy.
He got a 1st class knight without swords.
The awards are mentioned for the years before in some editions of the Hof- und Staatshandbuch Baden (e.g. 1910).
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14 hours ago, Solomon said:
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Georg Freiherr von Eppstein, personal friend of Prince Leopold IV. and his adjudant
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My cross is Eppstein´s cross. ...Prof. Georg Freiherr von Eppstein
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11 minutes ago, Philip.S said:
... wearing any Weimar awards ...
Created in 1934 I believe this decoration can´t be referred in that way.
Regards, Komtur.
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14 hours ago, tyanacek said:
... If the list of recipients shown in the publication by Daniel is entirely complete, you would think that the medal bar would have to belong to one of the sixteen. But it now appears that all sixteen can be excluded because they either had other decorations not on the medal bar or they lack a decoration that is on the medal bar. Perhaps a few recipients have slipped through the cracks and do not appear on the listing? Or could there possibly be a different von Roeder? It’s actually a common name. It is too bad that the first name is not listed nor the birth and death dates. Perhaps it is also possible that this medal bar is a made up concoction and belongs to no real person? Looking at the bar, though, (examining the orders, decorations, ribbons, and construction) I find this last possibility a bit hard to believe. ...
In the end all three options are possible:
1.) The list is not complete.
2.) There is a fitting von Roeder beside the ones we know.
3.) There is something wrong with this bar.
The last opportunity seems to me quite unlikely too. Designing such a bar in this clever combination needs a very informed and cute guy. But unfortunately this is not impossible.
Regards, Komtur.
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The person you are looking for, must be one of the 16 with the Crown Order 3rd class on the white ribbon in Verleihungen von preußischen Kriegsorden und Ehrenzeichen im 1. Weltkrieg by Daniel Krause, published in February 2023 and to be found here.
You can exclude Frielinghaus, Gerlach, Hennig, Lösche, Methling, Müller-Berneck, Werner and Winter because of other listed awards in the Rangliste der Kaiserlich Deutschen Marine 1918 and Bartelt because of the same reason in Handbuch über den Königlich Preußischen Staat 1918 as Moroff in Militär-Handbuch des Königreichs Bayern 1914.
So there are left Koenemann, Ottilie, von Roeder, Schiemann, Szillinsky and Wittmann to search for in other sources e.g. rank lists, award lists etc.
Regards, Komtur.
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The participation in the inauguration ceromony of the Kaiser-Wilhelms-Denkmal in front of the Berlin palace qualified for the medal. Supposedly he was invited.
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On 26/04/2023 at 01:04, CRBeery said:
Is there a list of the holders of the KO4 on the white ribbon? Maybe I can work backwards.
They are listed in the Königlich Preußische Ordensliste. In that case, you need the edition of 1868 (with about 1.500 pages), because the Crown Order 4th class on the white ribbon on your bar should have been awarded for the war in 1866. But unfortunately all the names are listed by the award date of the same class. Therefore these awards on that special ribbon (about 130) are mixed up with the hundreds names of the awards on the normal blue (peacetime) ribbon and with the also hundreds of awards of the order with swords on the war time ribbon.
It would take hours to search these 130 names out of the complete list for the Crown Order 4th class. Sorry, but that time I am not able to afford. 😔
May be in between this book is to be found online and you can search there yourself?
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13 hours ago, CRBeery said:
Gone indeed 😇
See same ranklist page 195 (Gest. = Gestorben = dead):
On 24/04/2023 at 12:35, saschaw said:How about Hauptmann Wendt from Landwehrbezirk I Breslau? In the 1900 Royal Prussian army rank list, he's listed with RAO4, KO3, KO4w, EK2w and LD1.
An RKM3 is still missing, but he might have added that later...
My next rank list is from 1902, in which I could not find him. Neither is he listed in the 1904/05 or 1908/09 issues of Deutscher Ordens-Almanach. Komtur, might you maybe have a look into the Ordens-Listen?
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No RKM3 for Hauptmann Wendt to be found in the Ordenslisten and in the Staatsanzeiger.
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Enamel Time!
in Germany: Imperial: The Orders, Decorations and Medals of The Imperial German States
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Is it a "Frack"? 🤔