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Posts posted by Alex K
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I would say all three are original, quite a commmon medal, not heavily faked, unlike the aircrew europe star, copies do sometimes have larger unsoldered suspension rings from my experience
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Its common practice in uk coinage, including medals that the reigning monarch faces one way, their successor (heir) will face the opposite way, and so it continues, so when prince Charles succeeds his mother, i suspect, according to tradition he will face left, (bet they change the rules now I've said that!!)
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Hi very nice and desirable (to me at least) piece
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The 2nd picture seems to show a ww1 or pre ww1 british officers uniform, rank pips are on the arm cuffs, there are no unit insignia on the collar lapels, though so unit identification cant be determined, it seems to be a rather long tunic?
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1 hour ago, graham said:
I will bite - Werner Eduard Fritz von Blomberg
Correct
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12 hours ago, filfoster said:
"...just wearing the decorations from straight ribbons, or do you actually mean the mounting method where the gongs are resting (and fixed) on a piece of the straight ribbon?"
The major feature is the straight ribbon, vice the German method of a folded ribbon. Whether the medals are fixed or not, isn't the feature I am concentrating on. I suppose the field marshals' portraits (Wolseley and Roberts) show fixed medals on straight ribbons.
I had not previously noticed that Edward VII's medals were not 'court mounted' (straight ribbons) but instead, on folded, Prussian style mounting.
Once again, the folded german style was predominantly used by the royals based on their german ancestry, typically british decorations were worn on straight ribbons as evidenced by many images inckuding during queen Victoria's reign
Regards
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Cant confirm specifically but i would assume (for the royals at least) around about the time George v, renounced his german heritage and made other royals give up all their german titles, changed the dynastic name from Saxe-Coburg-Gotha to Windsor, some time around 1917, Britain was at the time at war with Germany! A good survival tactic, me thinks ?
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2 hours ago, filfoster said:
I just noticed that the mounting of these medals is in the 'Prussian' style, not the later British Court mounting style. Am I correct?
Yes, still very much sticking to their german roots at that time, his son, george v had medal bars mounted prussian style, until at least ww1
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On 30/09/2021 at 18:46, filfoster said:
OK, so now it's:
1. Order of the Bath
2. Order of the Star of India
3. Order of St George and St. Michael
4. Victorian Order
5. Order of the Indian Empire
6. Order of St. Vladimir
7. Order of Dannebrog (silver merit cross)
8. Order of the Redeemer
9. Prussian Order of the Crown 3rd Class
10. Austrian 'Marianerkreuz'
11. Hessian Order of Philip the Magnanimous
12. Saxe-Ernestine House Order
13. 2nd Empire Medaille Militaire
14. French Red Cross 1870-1871
This about right (for the medal bar in question) i would say but as jimn said, different day, different set-up!
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Very nice, thanks Megan
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30 minutes ago, JohanH said:
Could the second medal be the russian Order of St George?
Medal no. 8 (second from the right) is perhaps the Kriegsdenkmünze of 1813?
The ribbon of the last medal looks Russian to me. It looks almost like the ribbon for the Turkish campaign.
I would generally agree with this assesment
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12 hours ago, jimn said:
The Imperial version of the Medaille Militaire is certainly a very attractive decoration. I agree he wore the Imperial version. We need clearer pictures I am searching as well. Eddie seems to have had many versions of his medal bar!!!
I saw a "short" one .worn as KIng with only British awards.
Bath/Star of India/St Michael and St George/Indian Empire/Victorian Order/1887 Jubilee with 1897 clasp/Volunteer Decoration/Imperial Service Order. Court mounted British style. Which is the correct order of wear from 1904.
Yes as king he tended to wear bars composed of mainly or exclusively british, his son King George v also wore bars with foreign (german) awards, but those also disappeared with the start of ww1 (understandibly i suppose)
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4 hours ago, jimn said:
If his Medalile Militare is pre 1870 is it for a state visit of his mother to France in 1855 or 1868?
I thought later but if it is attributed to him in the Royal Collection then I stand corrected...\
This is a very interesting subject and because it is royalty we must not expect normal regulations will apply.
Hi its definately his from the royal collection with attribution, no indication as to why he received it to my knowledge
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Interesting, ive had a look in my medals year book (2019),, the "bible" for british medals, in their unofficial, commemorative section it diesnt appear to be listed
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1 hour ago, bolewts58 said:
Alex
Very nicely done. The Thais would certainly like those.
Rama VI was more British than the British. I believe he went to Eton and some of his brothers went to Harrow. His orders and decorations along with those of Rama V and Rama IV are on display at the Grand Palace in Bangkok. They also had a whole rack of Imperial German and Russian Orders. The showcases fill a room.
Hi thanks, yes I've seen some of the displays of uniforms etc (online)mainly British and Thai, would like to have seen the imperial German ones also
Regards
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Hi, thankyou, I try?
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Just to continue (rama v and rama vi)
Very much anglophiles, attached 2 coliurusations I did way back of King rama vi displaying on display very much British style
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You could try
Quarterdeckmilitaria.com.au
They have an extensive portfolio of replicas, hubertus isn't listed but you never know
Regards
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22 minutes ago, QSAMIKE said:
One of the sad things is that when we had the big flood here we lost 2 large trunks full of the Wolseley family papers and a number of books that had been presented to him..... After the water had gone they were found under a very thick coating of mud, just mush......
Mike
What a shame!
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1 hour ago, filfoster said:
Da!
Spasiba ?
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Some more medals
in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
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Nice additions, particularly like the igs 1895 bronze one, (looks bronze to me at least)