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    Kapitular

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    1. Hello alltogether,

      I have listed and verified roughly 5800 Verleihungen in my Database regarding Oldenburg Houseorder Peter Friedrich Ludwig,now I would also like to verify the pictures of the owners. I was able to asign 25 pictures so far, but I am struggling with the rest of the pictures and I would like to ask you to help me with this.

      I am looking for pictures containing all levels of the Oldenburg Houseorder.

      I am going to display an extremly rarely picture with swords and laurelleaves and hope that somebody can help me.

      This is it : General von Hindenburg, owner of the golden Grandcross with swords and laurel.

      Best regards

      Kapitular

    2. Hello Heiko:

      I agree with you that this is a Sachsen-Meiningen Lifesaving Medal. The ribbon for this award is white with green side stripes (which compares favorably with what is shown in the photo). With only 71 struck and probably fewer than this awarded, a fantastic photograph! Congratulations.

      MfG,

      "SPM"

      A fantastic photo, extremely rare. First award: 28. Juli 1903, last award: 28. September 1918. Only 66 awards.

      Best regards

      Kapitular

    3. Does anyone know anything about this?

      The lifesaving medal was awarded since 1897. The time before, when no lifesaving medal existed, the civilmerit medal was awarded for lifesaving, in silver and gold too. After 1897 those persons, who had got a civilmerit medal for lifesaving, could ask for the new ribbon ( § 10 of the statutes). Look for more informations in my book about the lifesaving medals.

      Best regards

      Kapitular

    4. Hi,

      I'm not sure what you mean by "kingsize".

      FA1 Prinzens are ~38-39mm

      FA2s are ~39.5-40.5mm

      FA1s are ~45-46mm (depending upon manufacturer and period)

      Are you saying you have one that's 47mm?

      If so, can you show some obverse & reverse pics. That may help figure out what it is.

      Regards

      Mike

      That is right, my FA cross 2nd class is 47 mm. It looks exatly like a normal piece of 40 mm.

      Regards

      Kapitular

    5. Hello,

      not too long ago an Oldenburg Friedrich August Cross first class in silver was on offer at Thies. It was engraved on the backside with the Oldenburg arms.

      I also know the 2nd class in silver. As described in my book they are not a higher level but a luxurious version, also known in other german counties.

      My question is now:

      Is it possible that certain people like "Kaiser, K?nig etc got this cross in silver? I know of a box which is identical with the commandercross but the innersections are different of course.There is an old inscription "Oldenburg Friedrich August Kreuz" and come from an old austrian "Erzherzog".

      Maybe there are similar known awards in other german counties?

      Best regards

      Kapitular

    6. This case doesn?t belong to the Oldenburg "Rote Kreuz Medaille". This medal was cased in a small box, red and blue, with the marker?s label of Knauer inside. The medal was made in silver gilt, as yours, and also in bronze gilt. During the first world war about 300 were given to nurses as well as to ambulancers. The correct number I cannot say, because many of the lists are missing.

      Best regards

      Kapitular

      Mark,

      From the pictures I would say a little bird belongs in the case and not the medal you show. If both are original they are nice pieces but IMO they do not go together. I think the case is for the Adler der Inhaber from Hohenzollern. I can not speak to the originality of the pieces so others might help there.

      CRBeery

    7. His Officer cross with swords and his Officer cross with swords and wreath you can see in my collection in the "Schlossmuseum Jever". A detail photo of the cross with swords an wreath you?ll find in my homepage.

      Regards

      Kapitular

      This photo is not in my collection and it come from the Beyreiss's book. We can see von Hohnhorst with his Pour le M?rite and the unique Offier crosswith swords and wreath of the House and Merit Order of Duke Peter Friedric Ludwig of Oldenburg. He received this cross on 29.10.1918.

      Christophe

    8. The point about the BELGIAN award preceding two from OLDENBURG :beer: makes me wonder whether that ribbon is actually from Reuss-- and the Order has been incorrectly replaced?

      Dear Rick,

      I examined the bar very carefully and I must say: You are right!!!!! The Belgian order was replaced and the ribbon is from Reu?. Now we can start again and I hope, with this new information we?ll find the owner.

      Best regards

      Kapitular

      Well, like I said back then

      http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2174...anner&st=20

      if you've got lists of W?rttembergers with the Belgian and Oldenburg Orders, then post their NAMES here to narrow down the search limits. I still have no way to locate CIVILIANS without names. :(

      The point about the BELGIAN award preceding two from OLDENBURG :beer: makes me wonder whether that ribbon is actually from Reuss-- and the Order has been incorrectly replaced?

      But that grade of Oldenburg House Order to W?rttembergers must be the sole remaining hope there is to find him now.

    9. Hi Claudius,

      I also first wanted to bid on # 49, but after discussing it with a fellow forumites, I thought that the Oldenburg Ehrenkreuz with swords could have been replaced... these are quite faked, since they are easy to make (or easier than the enameled orders) and are so rare. I think that very likely in its place there was the Household order of Oldenburg, maybe a RK 1st or 2nd class. The all combination with the Ehrenkreuz didn't really make sense... but apart from that it was quite an interesting Godet bar. I would have like to see that bar personally, but from the picture you can tell that the Ehrenkreuz is attached looser than the other medals. This particular is even more strange if considered that Godet bars are always put together very precisely.

      Ciao,

      Claudio

      Hello,

      for me it is clear, that the Ehrenkreuz with swords has been replaced. The bar is an officer?s bar, but the Ehrenkreuz was never given to an officer. I suppose, there was a RK 1st or 2nd class before.

      Regards

      Kapitular

    10. Hello,

      Nearly two years ago we tried to identify the owner of this NC bar. At that time there was one name: Konsul Wanner from Stuttgart. But in the meantime I had to learn, that he did not receive the Prussian Crown Order nor the Read Eagle. Two months ago I got the names of all the owners of the Belgian Crown Order, but no name was fitting.

      So I try it again, perhaps somebody of you can help me. I still think, the owner must be a medicine, but of course, I am not sure.

      Looking forward for your answers!

      Kapitular

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