Thank you. I don't have the 1st pattern Pilot/observer in my collection yet, I have no luck with finding one at all. I collect war badges for some 4 rears now and in all this time it happened to me three of four times that I missed it within a hair. There are some LW junckers in my collection, but the glider and retired pilot are also missing. Regards Sasha the scans are not the best, the colours are a little disfigured Here is RO/AG badge from Deumer