Falk

national sozialistische betriebszellen organisation

department of railways

regards

Falk

its from regiments day .

here is the list of all regiments

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Infanterieregimenter_der_neupreu%C3%9Fischen_Armee

nr 56 and 57 have their home in wesel

Falk

Hm weitze have them in new items

there were a l?t of tinnies made of paper , mostly in the early years .

sometimes they came from "new old stock"

regards

Falk

a real price for one in germany is 3?

the second isnt in good condition , so only 2?.

sometimes they were sold for a lot of more to overseas.

regards

Falk

@ wood thank you for your translation , but i am still hope to refreshing my english in this forum .

in this time im not shure if there were really original dies produced .

in the tieste catalouge it is listet with unknown year.

schmalkalden were first us and later russian zone , it was dangerous to have such items at home . russians want no swastikas as souvenirs. schmalkalden is not wide away from my home , but i cant get any information at the town house . what the americans didnt carry away , was destroyed before the russians came .

no one here or in the german forum could answered some of my special questions.

in this time i think that all badges on tis side were shown , were produced on the same dies at the same time . bevore 1945 or after 45 this is the question . all were made of very thin brass , the silver goes easyly away . it should be interesting , to hold woods and one of the other badges in one hand .

we know more about the moon than about the "sportschiesswettbewerb der 57 . ss standarte schmalkalden th?ringen "and the stamped manufactere "carl peter schmalkalden "

if you want to see a 100 % copy please look here

http://www.militaria-fundforum.de/showthre...ht=schmalkalden

posting nr 17 , there ia a picture of an polish standart copy , even with the typical ges. gesch. at the backside.

regards

Falk

@ wood

i am shure , if you clean your badge with a teethbrush , you will have the same design at the rear as all the badges here were shown . i owned a badge in nearly the same condition , also with broken needle und much mud on the back.

here is another one in standaard design for only 495$

http://www.craiggottlieb.com/data/inspect....erman+Militaria

at my first posting i wrote " i think original "

i should have written " it s the same style , which was told me original "

a short time ago a member of a german forum bougt 4 tinnies , two or three were surely fakes , and also the well known ss badge . here is the link for it

http://www.militaria-fundforum.de/showthre...ht=schmalkalden

in this thread i ask the same questions like here :

who has any information of the maker " Carl Peter Schmalkalden " ?

is his name listet everywere ?

why has the tinnie either a date not a year ?

in which years were "sportschiesswettbewerbe " in schmalkalden done ?

has anyone found a badge under save conditions like

an estate of an old ss man

digging out of the earth

found in an old house , or somewhere where you must not pay for it ?

when it is a fake , who is the maker of the fake ?

here is a fake maker

http://www.germanmedals.biz/catalog/

but he hasnt this badge not in his program.

a lot of questions , i hope someone can give some or only one answer, and my broken english is so good that anyone understand.

Falk

@ wood

what makes you shure ?

what you think about this

<a href="http://www.militaria321.com/auktionsdetail...ctionID=5329268" target="_blank">http://www.militaria321.com/auktionsdetail...ctionID=5329268</a>

or this

<a href="http://beerhallputsch.com/product_info.php...products_id=724" target="_blank">http://beerhallputsch.com/product_info.php...products_id=724</a>

or this

<a href="http://www.huesken.com/cgi-bin/cat-art-ind...ang=d&kat=1" target="_blank">http://www.huesken.com/cgi-bin/cat-art-ind...ang=d&kat=1</a>

or this

<a href="http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/sho...ad.php?t=237923" target="_blank">http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/sho...ad.php?t=237923</a>

I think when one is a fake , the others are afake too . it looks as were all produced by one maker.

Falk

I think original .

Falk

to my oppinion is , that this is an original .

this tinnie is often to find , the sportfest breslau was visited by visitors from all parts of gemany . the reichsbahn startet 350 extratrains for the visitors. the price is a little bit high , it should be payed with 20 - 30 ?.

Falk