bravo2zero

It may just be suspicious old me but has anyone else noticed the large number of modern campaign medals eg.for the Iraq and Afghanistan campaigns for sale on Ebay COMPLETE WITH BOX OF ISSUE AND FORWARDING SLIP FROM THE ARMY MEDAL OFFICE.? I cannot recall the same number appearing after say,The Falklands War,either a lot of serving soldiers are cashing in on their medals,(illegal of course if you are still serving) or maybe it is just the wide world of Ebay ... has anyone bought one?Do they look OK? I do know the naming styles have changed and are now done by computer...could this mean that some cunning type with access to the same naming fonts is turning them up? It was pretty rare to ever get the box of issue named to the recipient...most soldiers would have thrown the box away.... Maybe I'm just getting old and cranky...but they are selling for quite high prices.I'd value fellow collectors comments. Mike

Gentlemen.In a group that I recently bought the officers medal bar shows an interesting device on the second ribbon.The first ribbon is of course the Iron Cross.The second is a Hohenzollern Order with swords. The soldiers grandson assures me that the Crown Order 4th class with swords that was with the grouping was always there.Could this three part device possibly indicate the Crown award combined with the Hohenzollern Order.The recipient was Major Philip Sander PLM winner in 1918.The bottom part of the device is a wreath,the middle part the crossed swords, and the top section the Crown.It is superbly made. Mike

[ Good morning Glenn How do you reckon this would be for v Lobenthal's medal bar? EK2 (1870) Red Eagle 3 with bow (no swords?) Crown Order 3 (no swords?) Campaign crosses for: Duppel Koninggratz Main Army (?) 1870 war medal with bars that you mentioned Officers Long Service Cross Do you know if he lived long enough to get the Centenary medal? Again thank you for checking the Regimental history. Kind Regards Mike Downey quote name='bravo2zero' date='Nov 6 2005, 20:16 ' post='29377'] Glen.Thank you for looking....it was very much appreciated, Mike

Glen.Thank you for looking....it was very much appreciated, Mike

Thank you Andy for your info.Glen...I look forward with fingers crossed for a photo! Kind Regards. Mike D.

[ Glenn.Tremendous!Could you organise a colour scan of him in full dress uniform please? Seriously, I do appreciate your information.A beer (or two) awaits you when next you visit Down Under.Would you think I might have any hope of finding an image of him? Again thanks. Mike quote name='Glenn J' date='Nov 3 2005, 16:57 ' post='28828'] Mike, Karl von Lobenthal retired as a char. Oberst and Brigadier in the Gendarmerie on the 30th of October 1888. The 1886 Rang- und Quartier-Liste shows the following: OPLM RAO4 PKO3 EK2 Johaniter Ehren-Ritter Officers' Long Service Decoration Following his retirement he received the RAO3 with Bow in November 1888. He served at the following actions: 1864: Satrup, Eritsoe, Fridericia, D?ppel, Sonderburg 1866: Soor, K?niggr?tz 1870/71: St. Privat, Beaumont, Sedan, Paris Regards Glenn

Gentleman.Could I ask for the assistance of those with pre WW1 references for the PLM.I have seen some lovely photos of the gold PLM awarded to Hauptmann Karl Frederich von Lobenthal awarded for the 1866 war against Austria.He was with 3.Garde-Regiment zu Fuss.He later served in the Franco Prussian campaign and was badly wounded at St Privat where he was awarded the Iron Cross 1st Class.I would like to work out the other decorations and campaign medals he would have held.My thoughts are; PLM/EK1/Crosses for Denmark and Austrian campaigns/Franco Prussian War Medal. There was another von Lobenthal who received the PLM in 1793 and later as a Major General commanded 24 Brigade around Waterloo time.This Brigade had the 3 Infanterie Regiment in it...can I presume a grandfather/father/uncle link to the 1866 PLM winner? Thank you for your help. MIke Downey (Australia)

Having just invested in a couple of rank Lists and now looking towards the excellent CD may I ask the All Knowing One to set me straight on my next problem? Why the bloody hell don't the Germans put the officers initials alongside his name? I look at a list for, let's say Stumpff, and there's six of them.How the devil do you find which is your recipient? You can tell how dumb I am ... I can't even work out how to drop a Clickable Smiley in.... Mike