Michael Johnson

https://www.culture.fr/Grand-Memorial works for me.

Michael

I can't speak for the early issues, but later ones to women are "Mlle" (Mademoiselle) and "Me"  (Madame).

And Marie is not exclusively a female name. My grandfather was Marie Adrien Emile Darte.  Known as Emile or "Milo"

However I do not see any matricules for a Marie Meillier, so I would say a woman.

It appears to be a medal for large families, perhaps a precursor (or maybe a prototype?) to the official medal instituted in May 1920 in three classes. 

It will be part of my exhibition at the Oakville Ontario Museum to celebrate the 100th Anniversary of the Royal Canadian Air Force.

Given that the Second Republic ended in 1851, it is possible that the gorget might have still been in use during the Crimean War.  All depends on how swiftly new plates were made.  And again, were the gorgets issued or were officers required to purchase them?

Michael

It looks like a tour souvenir, but unusual as it appears to be a female soldier.

I once had a group to a man who served in the Boer War, Northwest Frontier 1908, and in the First War from 1914.  Order was QSA, IGS, 1914 Star trio.  Wish I'd kept it.

Michael

All silver since the star pattern was replaced.  I would say a minimum of .800 and a maximum of .925 silver, but that is based on Canadian Second War Medals.

I reupped.  The ability to use wildcards is crucial when you are dealing with medals.

Michael

The fastest way I've found is to search as follows:

"surname first name middle name" supplement [Assuming there is more than one first name on the medal]

You can enter a date range based on the obverse of the medal if you get too many hits.

Searching Eason this way turned up one hit - the right one. https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/45877/supplement/571

Michael

According to the Ancestry medal rolls he had Egypt, AGS Somaliland 1908-10, NGS Persian Gulf 1909-1914, and a British War Medal for the First War.

Michael

59 minutes ago, Rich said:

Hi Michael that is excellent information.

 

Thanks once again for your help with my research. I shall have to look at Geneanet again as looks really useful.

 

Cheers

Richard

You really have to go Premium, though.  Sadly I let mine lapse, so could not filter by birthdate, which with a common name would be a real problem.

I think this is probably your man: https://gw.geneanet.org/vpelletant?n=blay&oc=&p=xavier+auguste

Gives a snapshot of his service with the SNCF.

His military service record is here: https://archives.ladrome.fr/ark:/24626/sxthnj8r15f2/64c575d1-eb86-4f6c-95ae-26bb07749c3a Image 747

It indicates that he held the Carte de Combattant, which would have entitled him to the Combatant's Cross.

Coincidently, he was born on the other side of Lyon from Chaponost, where my maternal grandmother was born.  I've posted a number of times about her brother, Capitaine Marcel Verzieux.

Michael

Next batch arrived.  negative on all three G. Larramendys, but lots on Emile Cointo, who was a PoW.  He was in Stalag XVIIC, in Austria.  Several of the scenes from The Sound of Music were filmed nearby.

Also includes letters from his wife asking the SNCF to try to get his release for health reasons.

COINTO EMILE FERNAND LUCIEN 2002_019_PERSO_0067_012.pdf

On 29/01/2023 at 06:43, peter monahan said:

Nice link, Michael.  Thank you.

 

Who's the young chap in the photo?

 

"Where have all the young men gone?

Long time passing;

Where have all the young men gone?

Long time ago;"

Years ago I bought a Kingston Trio CD at a neighbours' garage sale.  I cried when I heard that one.

Michael

On 22/06/2022 at 13:22, Michael Johnson said:

I've heard back from SNCF Archives.  They found four out of the five names submitted.  There is a fifty year limitation on pension information, but I'm not interested in that.

 

However, like archives around the world, they are backlogged, and it looks like about a year's delay.  And the results will be paper copies, so add shipping time.

Eight months, and they sent them electronically.

Michael

The first lot of research from SNCF Archives arrived yesterday.  A little disappointed that the issue of medals (except for mention of  a Medaille Militaire) isn't covered.  Here's what they look like.

They were good enough to translate the railway abbreviations used in the files:

Nous vous adressons les pièces issues des dossiers trouvés.

Signification des grades mentionnés sur le relevé de carrière de Mr AUDOUBERT Pierre :

FE : Facteur à l’essai

FEC : Facteur aux écritures

CS2 : Commis de 2ème classe

CS1 : Commis de 1ère classe

CSP : Commis principal

SCBG : Sous-Chef de bureau de gare

CBG4 : Chef de bureau de gare de 4ème classe

Signification des grades mentionnés sur le relevé de carrière de Mr LUCAS Charles :

AUX MV : Manœuvre Auxiliaire

MV ES : Manœuvre à l’essai

MV : Manœuvre

AIO : Aide-Ouvrier

OPFL2 : Ouvrier professionnel de 2ème classe

Signification des grades mentionnés sur le relevé de carrière de Mr HONETTE Armand :

DR ES : Distributeur à l’essai

DR : Distributeur

XP : Expéditionnaire

Signification des grades mentionnés sur le relevé de carrière de Mr RICHERIOUX Hilaire :

CT ES : Cantonnier à l’essai

CT : Cantonnier

SCCT : Sous-Chef de Canton

CCT : Chef de Canton

CCTP : Chef de Canton Principal

AUDOUBERT PIERRE 2000_007_PLM_0046_006.pdf AUDOUBERT PIERRE EXTINCTION_1983.pdf

https://blogs.aphp.fr/wp-content/blogs.dir/113/files/2020/06/20200616_1096W-Personnel-Foch-Charteok.pdf

It appears to have been a veterans' hospital, and later retirement home.

I have seen others (one with a 1967 mint mark) which are engraved, which leads me to believe that this must be an early award.  The establishment opened in 1922.

Michael

Given its position it can't be either of these two clasps:

Northwest Frontier 1908

Abor 1911-12

Most likely are:

Afghanistan NWF 1919

Mahsud 1919-20

Waziristan 1919-21

or some combination of these three.

Bill,

I have five singles in all:

William Nacelli 1932

Asa William Garrison 1946

Frederick Mulford Sharp 1944 Re-enlisted for Korea

Albert Larue Delp Jr. 1945  His Pennsylvania Veterans Compensation application states no foreign service.

Robert Walter Phelps 1945

Try here: https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/military-medals-1812-1969/Pages/search.aspx

Choose "Northwest Rebellion" from Event/Time Period.

Michael

Carina served in the Pacific and earned three battle stars.

Michael

Looks like he had Korean service: Electronics Technician (Communications) Petty Officer 2nd. Korea

From his Gravesite information.

Michael

I have one I definitely want to follow up on.  Asa William Garrison. Y2C. Joined CV-12 USS Hornet when it was commissioned. Served on her until October 1944.

Paul R. My earliest is to William Nacelli 1932.  I don't have his record, but documents on Ancestry show that he enlisted in 1919, and served until 1946.  I love those old four-stacker DDs, and he served on a slew of them:

USS Tattnall (DD-125)

USS Williamson (DD-244)

USS Childs (DD-241)

USS Gilmer (DD-233)

USS Leary (DD-158)

Then

USS Sterett (DD-407)

USS Rowan (DD-405)

USS Markab (AD-21)

USS Denebola (AD-12)

USS Anthedon (AS-24)

He married twice.  Strangely enough, his first wife died in my home town of Oakville ON while travelling.  He remarried in the Philippines, probably when stationed at Subic Bay.  He is buried in the Philippines.

Michael 

I'm wondering if it might be South American or Mexican.  Their military fashions often followed European lines.

Michael