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And here's JShorter's cross's big brother, the XL cross!

I believe someone put the idea in my head... But I don't recall "supporting reasons," which is why I brought it up for discussion... Any suggestions as to who might have made this one, if not Souval?

...And here's the back (one day I'll get to that status upgrade!)

---Um, it looks like I had another, er what we call in the collecting world, Another Fookin' Senior Moment! Last year, I asked the same question, and got this response from Dave B: ....looks ok to me. Have you got any larger photos of the Cross you could possibly post please. And from Danny70: From what I can see in the pictures, I don't have any immediate concerns about this cross either. MM-13: Gustav Brehmer, Markneukirchen/Sa. (Stepped swastika) As to your question... Was Brehmer the only producer of stepped swastika'ed EKs? As far as I am aware, yes, but not all '13's have this feature.... however there are also some 'Round 3's with a stepped swastika, but the maker of these crosses is not known. Gustav Brehmer is one of the makers whose crosses can often be found in surprisingly good condition (as can W&L '100's). [Gene takes a moment out, to feel like an idiot, for having forgotten all this! ] Here's a slightly larger view, front...

This has been i.d.ed to me as a Souval... comments, guys? Metallic center, but definitely NOT silver edging, as no tarnish when I got it, in Munich, 1964, and no tarnish since. Any suggestions? ~Cartoonman

Okay, so is it a Souval post-war 1939 EKII? Metallic center, clean castings... but non-tarnishing rim, clearly not silver! Purchased in Munich, 1964 or 65... Comments, suggestions? Thanks, Gang! ---Cartoonman

See: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Husaren-Regiment_„von_Zieten“_(Brandenburgisches)_Nr._3 The article gives the history of the regiment, that was active through 1919. It was dissolved in May of that year. THere were "traditional squadrons" that were active for ceremonial purposes in the 1940s, presumably through the end of WWII... ---Cartoonman Husaren-Regiment „von Zieten“ (Brandenburgisches) Nr. 3 Das Husaren-Regiment „von Zieten“, genannt Zieten-Husaren, war ein Husarenregiment der Preußischen Armee. Zu Beginn des Ersten Weltkrieges war es der 6. Division in Brandenburg unterstellt. Es folgte der Tradition des altpreußischen Leibhusaren-Regiments des Generals von Zieten Die Auflösung des Regimentes erfolgte am 30. Mai 1919. Die Nachfolgeregimenter in Rathenow hatten sogenannte Traditionsschwadronen, welche noch bis in die 1940er Jahre die Traditionen weiterführten, indem sie an den Reitergeist Zietens und seiner Husaren erinnerten und an entsprechenden Feier- oder Gedenktagen in den Uniformen der Husaren auftraten.

Also, Neil confirms the color: Ummm, it was green. I cleaned it up a bit and found out the ribbon was dark green. Neil ---Cartoonman

Ach, so.... aber dunkelgrün sieht's nicht aus! It doesn't look dark green, or dark like Neil's ribbon, anyway... It's an interesting idea, but do you think a "dark green" ribbon could appear almost black after time? I'm open to suggestions, I'm just not sure about this one... Tschüß! Cartoonman

The web site caption says it is gold...

Good thinking, Uwe, but isn't this the Brunswick medal, with a not-very-dark green ribbon? ---Cartoonman

My friend Neil acquired this ribbon bar recently... and is drawing a blank on the black (?) ribbon. Any guesses? Any informed opinions? I know, I know, where's a photo of the back? He hasn't sent one yet... ---Cartoonman

Oh, but No, no......... I defer to He-Who-Is-Clearly-The-Master! ---Rank Beginner

Is it bad form to chuckle at the Club Staff "Secretariat," when he gets wound up?! ---Club Plebe

Great story, Ulsterman! My family avoided the whole affair: father's family was practicing serfdom in Ukraine and Poland at the time; my mother's family was busy avoiding trouble in France. In fact, re serving one's country, I have family records back to 1632 from that part of the family, and no one died during any of France's wars (no smart-aleck answers, gentlemen...) That said, my grandfather spent most of WWI on the front in Belgium, and was awarded the Belgian Croix de Guerre, French Croix de Guerre (3 stars) and the Legion d'Honneur... He re-upped in '39 (as a liason officer), and was released from the BEF on the beaches at Dunkirk... and spent the rest of the war in Occupied France...For some reason, he never picked up his WWII service medals after that... :unsure: