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Oberleutnant Paul Schwarzrock (also known as Rudolf/Udo) Born: 19th June 1912 in Danzig Highest rank reached: Oberstleutnant Chef 1./Inf.Rgt GD Führer 4./Inf.Ers.Btl 99 Chef 12./Inf.Rgt GD Kdr II/Gren.Ers.Brigade GD Kdr Ers.Abt 'Schnelle Truppen' GD Kdr I/Pz.Gren.Rgt GD 7./Pz.Gren.Rgt GD Kdr Pz.Gren.Ers.Rgt GD Führer Pz.Gren.Rgt GD Kdr Gren.Ers.Brigade GD RK: 19-08-1944

Kindly contributed by Dave Danner

Without a date and place of birth it might be difficult. If you have those details then you could hire a researcher to see if his personnel file exists in the Bundesarchiv Berlin (Enlisted Men) or Freiburg (Officers). As long as he has been dead for 10 years or more or 100 years have passed from his date of birth then the researcher should be able to access it.

Oberleutnant Erich Rudorffer Born: 01-Nov-1917 in Zwochau Died: 08-April-2016 Highest rank reached: Major 2./JG-2 6./JG-2 Staffelkapitän 6./JG-2 Gruppenkommandeur II/JG-2 Gruppenkoomandeur IV/JG-54 Gruppenkommandeur II/JG-54 Gruppenkommandeur I/JG-7 II/JG-7 RK: 01-May-1941 EL: 11-April-1944 Schw: 26-January-1945 DKiG: 09-December-1941 Credited with 222 Kills

This is a Luftwaffe signature - Herbert Bachus.

The date of birth doesn't match but there is a Major Hans-Joachim von Samson-Himmelstjerna listed as dying on 27th April 1944 while serving with Pz.Gren.Rgt 64. A relation perhaps?

It could well be. It looks like it says Kdr Div.Kr.Offz under the signature so I would assume the Kr is Kraftwagen.

No, I don't think so.

Those are ranks and signatures - Gefr (Gefreiter) and then a signature followed by Uffz (Unteroffizier) followed by a signature. If he was killed or died of wounds it wouldn't be entered under a weapon issue.

Were they still manufacturing the Waffenrock in 1944?

I would say it is a fake. The way the signature is signed across the typed F.d.R is an old fakers way of making it harder to decipher the signature.

The Index thread to compliment this superb thread is now up to date. As always, if you spot any mistakes etc just let me know.

Courtesy of new member Erik E: This is my first post. Start with this E.K. 2. "urkunde" from 18. august 1916 to ??? L. Hermann signed 20. august 1916 by Major und Kommandeur der Pioniere IX K.A. Krischbert ? I have sought on the internet and can not find anything. Do any of the members know who this is? Courtesy of member The Prussian: Hello! Does anyone have an officers list of the High command of Heeresgruppe Mackensen in 1917 including turkish officers? I need to know who signed this paper (it´s for a visit of the imperial castle in Bucharest) He was the Imperial Turkish authorized general staff officer in the high command of the army group Mackensen. Major Tewfik (Binbaşı Tevfik): chief of staff 26th turkish Division Oberleutnant Schuekri (Üsteğmen Şükrü) Oberleutnant Sirri (Üsteğmen Sırrı) Leutnant Sureya (Teğmen Süreyya): Btl.Kdr. II./türk. 73.Inf.Rgt Unteroffizier Chewfki (Astsubay Şevki) signed, Major ??? Thanks a lot!

Additional courtesy of Erik E.

Does anyone know who signed this? It has been signed on behalf of rather than by the person who held the position so can not find anything that fits. At the date show Karl Kriebel held the position shown on the citation while Ernst-Eberhard Hell held the command position in VII.Armeekorps - neither signature matches.

To compliment the outstanding Kriegsmarine Cap Tallies thread here is an index to help people look for any examples that have already been posted. Just because an example has been posted please do not stop posting any similar examples of a cap tally in wear as the index can be updated as and when required to include it. There does seem to be a formatting issue when having to inset new entries in-between existing ones which leaves a bigger than normal space between the entries. If anyone knows how to overcome this without it breaking the links your help would be appreciated. Mützenbänder Publications Schule/Schiffstammabteilung Artillerieschulboot Bremse ( 15 ) Artillerieschulschiff Brummer ( 23 ) Berufsfachschule ( 1 - 11 ) Küstenartillerieschule ( 1 - 5 - 10 - 17 - 25 ) Marineartillerieschule ( 1 ) Marineflugabwehrschule ( 9 ) Marinenachrichtenschule ( 1 - 2 - 3 - 21 ) Marinenachrichtenschule Aurich ( 6 - 23 ) Marinenachrichtenschule Mürwik ( 15 ) Marinenachrichtenschule Wilhelmshaven ( 20 ) Marinesanitätsschule ( 20 ) Marineschule Kiel ( 2 - 14 - 14 ) Marineschule Mürwik ( 11 ) Marineschule Wesermünde ( 1 - 1 - 6 - 8 - 10 - 12 - 23 - 23 - 24 ) Marinesportschule ( 26 ) Reichsseesportschule ( 7 ) Schiffsartillerieschule ( 1 - 1 - 3 - 5 - 6 - 12 - 12 ) Schiffsjungenschule ( 1 - 5 ) Schiffstammabteilung ( 5 - 6 - 7 ) 2.Schiffstammabteilung ( 7 - 14 ) 3.Schiffstammabteilung ( 9 ) Schiffstammabteilung 5 ( 1 - 13 ) Schiffstammabteilung 6 ( 3 - 4 ) 9.Schiffstammabteilung 9 ( 3 ) 12.Schiffstammabteilung 12 ( 5 - 9 ) Schiffstammabteilung 13 ( 1 - 5 - 6 ) Schiffstammabteilung der xxx ( 7 ) Schiffstammabteilung der Nordsee ( 1 - 3 - 10 - 17 - 22 ) Schiffstammabteilung der Ostsee ( 1 ) Schiffstammabteilung Wesermünde ( 1 ) Schiffstammdivision der Nordsee ( 4 - 9 - 11 ) Schulboot Nordsee ( 23 ) Schulflottille des B.S.O. ( 26 - 26 ) Schulschiff Deutschland ( 5 ) Sperrschule ( 16 - 23 ) Sperrschulverband ( 2 ) Torpedoschule ( 23 - 23 ) Torpedoschulflottille ( 9 - 22 - 23 - 24 ) U-Bootsabwehrschule ( 21 ) Unteroffizierlehrabteilung ( 3 - 3 - 9 - 15 ) Unteroffiziervorschule 1 ( 2 ) Unterseebootsabwehrschule ( 26 ) Unterseebootsschule ( 11 - 24 ) xxxSchulverband ( 1 ) Artillerie Marineartillerieabteilung ( 1 - 1 - 1 - 3 - 8 ) Marineartillerieabteilung 4 ( 21 ) Marineartillerieabteilung 6 ( 24 ) Flottille 2.Geleitflottille 2 ( 1 - 3 - 7 - 23 - 25 ) Donauflottille ( 4 ) Minensuchflottille 1 ( 20 ) Marinesuchhalbflottille ( 21 ) 1.Minensuchhalbflottille 1 ( 2 - 22 ) 2.Minensuchhalbflottille 2 ( 22 ) Raumbootsflottille.1 ( 1 - 10 - 12 ) x Schnellbootsflottille x ( 2 ) 1.Schnellbootsflotille ( 26 ) 2.Schnellbootsflottille 2 ( 17 ) Schulflottille der BSN ( 12 ) Torpedobootsflottille ( 21 - 22 ) 1.Torpedobootsflottille 1 ( 24 ) 4.Torpedobootsflottille ( 22 ) Torpedobootshalbflottille ( 3 - 4 - 6 ) U-Jagdflottille.12 ( 3 ) Vorpostenflottille ( 9 - 10 - 20 ) U-Boot Erprobungskommando für Unterseeboote ( 19 ) Unterseebootsflottille ( 9 ) Unterseebootsflottille Hundius ( 15 - 18 - 23 ) Unterseebootsflottille Lohs ( 26 ) Unterseebootsflottille Saltzwedel ( 1 - 11 - 22 ) Unterseebootsflottille Weddigen ( 24 ) Torpedoboot Albatros ( 6 - 16 ) Jaguar ( 10 - 11 ) Kondor ( 14 - 24 ) Leopard ( 15 ) Luchs ( 17 - 23 ) Seeadler ( 18 - 23 ) Wolf ( 8 ) Zerstörer 1.Zerstørerdivision 1 ( 28 ) 3.Zerstørerdivisjon 3 ( 28 ) 4.Zerstörerdivision 4 ( 14 - 22 ) 5.Zerstörerdivision 5 ( 17 ) Anton Schmitt ( 1 ) Bruno Heinemann ( 2 - 20 ) Diether von Roeder ( 26 ) Friedrich Eckhold ( 1 - 20 - 26 ) Friedrich Ihn ( 1 - 28 - 28 ) Hermann Schoemann ( 1 - 21 - 25 ) Karl Galster ( 6 ) Leberecht Maass ( 2 - 25 ) Max Schulz ( 9 - 10 ) Paul Jacobi ( 2 ) Richard Beitzen ( 1 ) Theodor Riedel ( 27 ) Kreuzer Admiral Hipper ( 14 - 17 ) Blücher ( 15 ) Emden ( 1 - 10 - 11 - 12 - 15 - 15 - 15 ) Karlsruhe ( 1 ) Köln ( 1 - 3 - 6 - 14 ) Königsberg ( 4 - 15 - 23 ) Leipzig ( 1 - 2 - 14 - 27 ) Nürnberg ( 1 - 3 - 22 ) Linienschiffe Hannover ( 2 ) Hessen ( 4 ) Schlesien ( 2 - 6 - 12 - 24 ) Schleswig-Holstein ( 1 ) Panzerschiffe Admiral Graf Spee ( 1 - 25 ) Admiral Scheer ( 21 - 22 ) Deutschland ( 2 - 21 - 22 - 28 ) Schlachtschiffe Gneisenau ( 15 ) Scharnhorst ( 2 - 15 ) Misc Aviso Grille ( 1 - 15 ) Begleitschiff Erwin Wassner ( 18 ) Fischereischutzboot Elbe ( 27 ) Flottentender Hecht ( 27 ) Flottentender Jagd ( 11 ) Führerboot des F.d.M ( 18 - 18 - 23 ) Kommandantur Wesermünde ( 1 ) Kommandantur Wilhelmshaven ( 16 ) Kraftfahrkompanie Wilhelmshaven ( 17 ) Kriegsmarine ( 15 - 22 - 25 ) Kriegsmarinedienstelle Hamburg ( 17 ) Kriegsmarinedienstelle Stettin ( 23 ) Küstenschutz Danzig ( 19 ) Luftwaffenkommando See ( 19 ) Marineartillerieabteilung ( 26 ) Marineartilleriedepot ( 6 ) Marineergänzungsabteilung ( 1 - 10 - 18 - 19 ) Marine.Flieger.Abteilung ( 6 ) Marine HJ Celle ( 4 ) Marine HJ Dessau ( 4 ) Marinelazarett Swinemunde ( 11 ) Marinelazarett Wilhelmshaven ( 27 ) Marinenachrichtenstelle Cuxhaven ( 22 ) Marinenachrichtenstelle Süd ( 10 ) Marineunteroffizierlehrabteilung ( 28 ) Marineunteroffizierlehrabteilung 3 ( 26 ) M.L. Reichswehrministerium.M.L. ( 19 ) M.S. Wilhelm Gustloff ( 21 ) Nachrichtenstelle Warnemünde ( 2 ) Nachrichtenstelle Wilhelmshaven ( 22 ) Segelschulschiff Albert Leo Schlageter ( 2 - 18 - 24 ) Segelschulschiff Gorch Fock ( 2 - 4 - 9 - 10 - 21 ) Segelschulschiff Horst Wessel ( 18 - 18 ) Sperrschule ( 26 ) Sperrversuchskommando ( 13 - 20 ) Unterseebootstender Weichsel ( 22 ) Vermessungsschiff Meteor ( 12 ) Versuchsboot ( 13 - 19 ) Versuchsboot Nautilus ( 16 - 19 ) Versuchsboot Pelikan ( 27 ) W.E. Inspektion Dortmund ( 19 ) W.E. Inspektion Schleswig-Holstein ( 19 )

Of the handful of Reuter's listed, the closest to match in terms of arm of service is a Hauptmann Reuter serving in Infanterie-Rgt 116 but that is most probably Erich Reuter who won the DKiG as a Major in February 1942, RK as an Oberstleutnant in August 1942 and the Oakleaves in January 1945 as a Generalmajor while always serving as an infantry officer and not panzergrenadier.

The only names listed in the 01-1939 Stellenbesetzung that start with REU are: Reubert Reuchlin von Reumont Reuning Reusch Reuschling Reuse Reuss Reussner Reuter Reuthe Reuther Reutter Graf Reuttner von Wehl

What service arm did he belong to?

From member CanCol: Greetings, everyone. I need help identifying a signature and I am hoping someone knows who this is. The signature is from 1941 and for the Kreisleiter of Kreis IX, NSDAP Gau Berlin. It is my understanding all, or almost all documents for Kreis IX were destroyed in 1945 or were captured by the Soviet Union. Can anyone identify this signature? Many thanks, Barb

I don't often post items from my collection anymore but here is one item that I was able to trade for earlier this year during the height of the pandemic and being primarily a Grossdeutschland collector it will be hard for me to top. It is the Soldbuch and Führerschein to General der Panzertruppe Gerhard Graf von Schwerin who would win the Knights Cross, Oakleaves and Swords. In 1939 he was assigned as battalion commander of I/Infanterie-Rgt GD and would actually command the regiment for the opening of the invasion of France due to von Stockhausen being away for a few days (von Stockhausen's signature can be seen at the bottom of page 2). He would go on to command a battlegroup in the African desert where his men captured the British generals Richard O'Connor & Sir Philip Neame and also commanded 116.Panzer-Division in Normandy and around Aachen where he displeased Hitler with his decision to declare Aachen an Open City. Post-war he was in charge of a secret department that was responsible for setting up the West German armed forces. His entry in Wikipedia covers his career well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerhard_von_Schwerin What I also like about this Soldbuch is that it is the original issue from 1939. It never had a photo placed in it but it was carried by him from day 1 to the end of the war, is full of entries and is in good condition. A lot of Soldbücher to General's can be quite bland and a fair few are replacement issues. If anyone has digital copies of the Ehrenblätter for his Rittrekreuz grade awards I would appreciate a copy if possible to add to the Soldbuch files. On Ancestry I have been able to find a record of his Baptism and also a record of his marriage to his first wife Herta Kannengiesser in 1925. It is his second wife (of three), Julia Zulich, that is mentioned on page 5 of the Soldbuch. And from various online sources I have obtained his card files from WW2, some of which are shown below.

The unit is Ergänzungskampfgruppe 5 which was a bomber training unit, a sort of battle school - it is this one here based in Barth: http://www.ww2.dk/air/kampf/ergkgr5.htm Fliegerhorst Barth: http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Kasernen/Wehrkreis02/Kaserne_BarthFliegerhorst-R.htm The pilot is listed in the Volksbund and is buried in Aachen while his casualty card gives the cause of his death as an accident near a place called Bankow/Brankow which I can find no mention of.

Where is this item listed? My first gut feeling is that it could be a fake due to the ink being used for the Bonin signature being similar to other faked items but the quality of the image isn't good enough to go beyond a gut feeling. Likewise I can not find any mention of a Rudolf Lichte as a fighter pilot but that isn't unusual as there must of been hundreds who never left their mark in the history books. There is mention of a Rudolf Lichte on Ancestry as being married in Hannover in 1940 but it doesn't give any date of birth to aid confirmation and has his trade as Arbeiter so I doubt it is the same person.

Bit by bit the story comes together. Nice find with the obituary.

What does the stamp say? It might be that Inf.Rgt 245 was attached to another division. EDIT: Found it - Dietrich Kraiss. For the date of that citation he was in command of 168.Infanterie-Division.