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Thanks Eddie!
 

Hi. Is the top badge as stated in the topic title or something else?
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Related to Arthur Ablett, VC, DCM ? Incredible

" On 2nd September 1855 during the siege of Sebastopol , in the Crimea, a burning shell fell into a trench containing two cases of ammunition. Private Ablett, realising the danger to which all in the trench were exposed, seized the shell in his hands and threw it over the parapet, where it immediately exploded on touching the ground, but not one man suffered any injuries. "

And more here :  http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/VC.html

I hope you find them. Did emedals spell Alfred's surname incorrectly ? They have it as Albett.

Hi folks !

I have some original photographs in an official OHMS envelope which is titled The Preussen Redoubt. I'm trying to ascertain where this is as i also have a collection of trench maps - i'd like to connect the photos with the relevant map ( if it's there )

I've only managed to find several mentions of this on Google including a reference to the Battle Of Arras.

They're part of a collection of material related to an RFA officer who was at Ypres in 1917 and St Quentin in 1918 with the 47th Brigade, later attached to the 250th.

Any info greatly appreciated

Has anyone seen a memorial plaque awarded to someone who died after the war, say 1920 ?

I've never seen this until today and wondered for what reason it would be given ?

Sir Thomas Cato Worsfold's earliest memory of Mitcham was of being frightened one bright summer day. Writing in Bidder's Old Mitcham, he recorded how he saw 'four or five sheeted ghosts rising and bending in a field. To complete the unearthly illusion each spectre was armed with a flashing knife!'

Unfortunately, he does not say where this took place. Neither does he tell us when, although he does state that he was a child at the time so, given that he was born c.1861, an approximate date can be worked out.

But Worsfold's experience turned out to have a down-to-earth explanation. The young lad's nanny explained to him that the phantoms were actually gardeners wearing 'folds of white muslin swathed about their heads' to protect themselves from their crop of squirting cucumbers. Severing these thumb-sized whitish-green fruits from their stalks ejected an acrid spray that could burn flesh and do terrible damage to a person's eyes.

That's what i meant by reissue - not from the period.

kjf101

Was this what you were trying to post, thank you:)

Lorenzo

I've seen copies like that at auction for a few pounds.

Do not see the point in a £400 copy with no connection to the original medal, even with a certificate of " authenticity ".

What does it say ? " Yes, this is a copy " ?

Any joy, Renmore ?

Without seeing the backs, i'd be happy that the top medal is war issue, even though it is shinier. The patina looks right, as does the design. The bottom one looks like a reissue or copy.

Dear all possibly the sort of thing that might find its way on E-Bay

At approximately 4.45pm on Thursday 9 August a collection of over 600 WWI peace commemorative medal and badges were stolen form the Malmesbury area in Wiltshire. The items were in gold, silver, bronze, aluminium and paper. All items were associated with the peace celebrations of 1919 in Britiain, the Commonwealth and allied countires and also included Masonic commemoratives.

Any information phone DC Garry Epps (Wiltshire Police) (0044(0)1225 794739 (Crime number 54120070860)

All the best,

Paul

This is rotten.

I would contact the Antiques Trade Gazette and inform them. These medals may be dispersed throughout the country to auction houses and they have a stolen items section. Go to their website

Also, try their online auction search engine at the-saleroom.com

Hope they're found and the ******** caught.

Mervyn,

Producing fantasy coins with Edward VIIIs head on it has been a long established business in the numismatic trade. The first was the London dealer Geoffrey Hearn who produced a series of fantasy commonwealth crowns in 1954. Then the London dealer Richard Lobel continued and expanded the trend in the 1980s and lastly the Patina collection produced around 2000. Original patterns and trial coins bearing the portrait of Edward VIIII issued dated 1937 are very sought after. One interesting story is the Edward VIII 12 sided 3pence, many of these were sent to vending machine companies in order to adapt their machinery, while they were supposed to be returned a very small number escaped and a few turned up in circulation. As a boy we all looked through our threepenny bits in the misguided hope of finding such a coin. One of these is worth many thousands of pounds. It is possible to get coins from British East and West Africa, Fiji and Papua New Guinea all bearing the name of Edward VIII but without his portrait and dated 1936.These are all reasonably common and can be purchased for no more than a few pounds, not bad for a genuine coin of Edward VIII. On a medallic note two Royal Victorian Medals were presented bearing the portrait of Edward VIII. One in a group was sold in the Spink sale of the Giordano sale in 2010 to Horace Crisp, the group realised £8,200

Paul

I like the stories about Edward VIII coins almost as much as the 1933 penny. All but one are accounted for. It was placed under a church in Leeds and has since gone missing / stolen when the building was knocked down

Mervyn,

I am afraid that the coin dealer has it wrong. The first piece known as a "Birmingham Sovereign" is an imitation of a regal guinea, these were made in the early 19th century and the legends were changed from the correct ones found on the official issues in order to avoid potential forgery charges. They originally came in tubes of 50 or 100 and were used as gambling chips for card games and the like. The same is true for the model half sovereign, these were issued bearing various dates from the 1840's to 1870's and served the same role as the imitation guinea. The originals of these were issued in about 1841 as commemoratives for the birth of Albert Edward Prince of Wales, again, I suspect they were sold in 50's or 100's but unlike the earlier piece I have never encountered an original tube. As to value, I am afraid virtually nothing.

Hope this is of help,

All the best,

Paul

I concur

I've seen many, many hundreds of these and heard several different theories, one being they were used in early versions of Monopoly !!!!!???

I've been fortunate to find a couple of original grubby guineas dismissed as tokens ( even with dirt the difference should be very obvious ) but usually it is the opposite - people thinking they have something of value when they are readily available and usually worthless.

Thanks. I've messaged him but had no reply yet about the other Connolly

if you post his details I wil look up the diary for you.

Regards,

Renmore

2572 Connolly, Thomas James , Cpl

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Thanks !

Does anyone here have access to information about the 6th Btn ? A friends father was in the regiment and wounded August 1916 and then discharged under Regulation 392 ( XVI ).

He's curious as to how he was wounded / the battle or skirmish he was involved in.

What a great thread. Fascinating !

Has anything become of this ?

Very nice medal and great research.

I've alway liked Edward VII medals but the bank account just won't stand me collecting everything I like.

I for one look forward to reading more.

Regards

Brian

I like them too, though always think of Sir Clement Freud when i see Edward's profile.

A great group to a very brave man.

Thanks for posting it and the background surrounding its award.

Regards

Brian

Saddens me to think that very soon, the last of the wars generation will pass away, and the streets are filled with kids with no regard for what they achieved, what they sacrificed.

Brave soldiers going into battle every day but that generation - unique.

Sorry to dampen your party, but the Air Crew Europe Star illustarted in your opening thread / illustration while having the general appearance of being original - IS NOT however an original 'first issue' medal.

Note that the suspension rings on each of the stars is much larger - of wider dimesions - than the original 'first issues'

FYI: Campaign Stars with the larger suspension rings began to be issued in the 1980's as issues to late claimants, and or, as unmarked replacements at that time.

'Late issue' stars are not valued as much as originals, and are notoriously hard to sell-on unless of course someone is looking specifically to acquire a 'late issue'

As information.

Mark

Also, though it may sound odd to some, the tone of the metal and general appearance is also wrong. There are issue points to look out for, but these become dated over time as better copies are made.

Neither of the ACE's in this thread convince me and i've handled a fair few originals in my time.

However, there were experts and collectors years ago who believed certain things when appraising medals and these have since been proven to be inaccurate. There will always be a few originals that are dismissed as fakes primarily because they were not issued all at the same time in the same place

Peace of mind - what's that worth ?

Nice to see the case, is there an inscription on the lid or the upper lining?

Paul

No, just the case makers mark - Elkington & Co, Court Jewellers, Regent Street. The case is maroon morocco with gilt trim, blue velvet inner with extensive ribbon folded beneath

I can see modern ' copies ' making £10 on ebay but this is much older, maybe 70 years ? Trying to ascertain the value.

Tamgha-i-Khidmat, from Pakistan.

Brilliant !

2nd variety, third class - is that correct ?

Anyone recognise this ?