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  1. Just a few observations - as regards the Special Constabulary medal, compare the engraving with that on the first medal in this theme, a scratchy ,crude affair. This is a local production and this style is commonly seen on medals to junior officers in the regular Force. The Specials medal is also wrongly ribboned  (CPM M).I have checked the June 1997 Staff List for the then RHKP Auxilliary Police ( as the specials were known).Subject does not appear. His name (Chang) would indicate a northern Chinese family (Shantung) origin, if so it is most likely he would have ended his service by 1997 .

  2. At that time the Chief Police Officers in charge of the Municipal Police Forces in the Treaty Ports on the China Coast and the Colonial Force in Hong Kong ,bore the title Captain Superintendent.Hence CAPT SUPT.

    I can find no reference to " Barrett-Watts" on the China Coast at that time,detailed research into the Tientsin community at that time should reveal more.

    CRP could be Chinese Railway Police ?

  3. The following as background -

    " Working for the Chinese Customs Service, by Dr Catherine Ladds",

    and more specifically -

    From Chinese Customs Service Staff List -

    Davis T.N  Enlisted Jan 1921  as Probationery Tidewaiter

                      Resigned  August 1924 as Tidewaiter 2nd Class

                      Station on resignation - Tientsin.

    Indications point to a Tientsin venue.


  4. As regards the Northern Rhodesia Police,there were the following  'classes ' of Police Officers -  Superior,Senior and Subordinate - the first two were ' gazetted' ie Assistant Supers and above,the subordinates were the Inspectorate.All classes/ranks had mess kit,though for the lower orders a summer style was permitted year round.There was a 'Superior Mess' at HQ and all Divisions and Districts had their own in which all ranks in the Inspectorate (including African Inspectors) and above were full members.

    African members of the Rank and File had their own Messes although they were best described as Police Clubs.

  5. Within Colonial Police circles - Colonial Police Forces were established and operated under a Police Force Ordinance,part of the Laws of the relevant Territory/Colony/Protectorate.Under this Ordinance were the Police Discipline Regulations.Within these Regulations were the powers of senior officers to impose awards following conviction for a disciplinary offence, one of these awards was that of ' required to resign'.If the miscreant did this he could always say,in later life,that he ' resigned',blagging that he did not find the work to his liking or something similar.If a potential employer were to later  check he would only find a record of ' resignation ',the circumstances would not be revealed.

  6. Not strictly British or indeed Colonial but this is perhaps the most appropriate place. Ku Lang Su was an island off the Treat Port of Amoy (now XiaMen) in Southern China.It was administered by a Municipal Council,as per Shanghai,and had a small Police Force ( 2 Officers - Brits- and about 30 Indian Rank and File with a few chinese detectives and clerks.).The Force operated on the Island of Ku Lang Su and was abolished on the Japanese occupation at the early part of WW2.

                                                 A bronze cap badge recently appeared on eBay.It fetched GBP1,400.oo pounds

  7. My grouse with todays police uniforms is that the virtually the only occasion when ribbons can be seen is during ' interviews ' outside New Scotland Yard,or wherever.The officer on the beat ( should we still have them ) appears so overburdened with kit and wears such ' unfriendly' items as woolly pullovers, blousons,bomber jackets,stab-proof vests and etc,that there is little chance of anyone seeing any ribbons should he/she wish to display them.If medals have been awarded my view is that the ribbons should be worn.The post war bobby earned much respect from a chestfull but we live in different times and I shall have to get used to them.

  8. The original post mentions ' Gisberg's Departure ',who was Gisburg ? The man in plain clothes,or The Believed Governor. Also mentions ' 2 naval officers ',my take on these grandees,by reference to their gorgets,would be along the descending line of Governor,Provincial Commissioner, District Commissioner. and District Officer. Also unusual to see a Colonial Governor in White Jodphurs, Riding Boots and spurs,would normally wear short wellington boots (inside trousers) with spurs.May indicate his (military ? )background.

    Keep at it !

    Gotcha !

    Brigadier General Frederick Gordon GUGGISBERG

    Born Canada 1869  dec 1930

    In 1914 was Director of Public Works,GOLD COAST,in  Great War commanded 94th Field Coy Royal Engineers and other similar units, MID 5 times,in 1919 appointed Governor and Commander in Chief,Gold Coast.

    Still doesn't explain the jodphurs.

    Find more on Google/Army Lists etc.

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