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Very nice, congrats Chris.

Checking pics on the web, it strikes me that Baviarian's cin the king's entourage simply did not generally wear EK II's.

If there is no evidence of an EK II ribbon having been attached to the coat I would personally not attach one. Is the coat prewar or wartime? Some pics of the coat and loops might help. Thanks, I had forgotten about that thread. Based on those pics, why not keep an eye out for an adjutant sash and aguilettes? That will set up the coat nicely, for substantially less than any of the orders you would need.

Possible. Is the coat dated? And are there any pics of him wearing it in the HH auction catalogue (which is still up)?

EK II on a folded ribbon suspended from the second buttonhole would be a start if he still wore the coat after receiving that decoration (from memory, it is a pre-war blue coat, but who knows). Cheers, Sandro

If the Rock was worn past the award date of the EK II you could in any event mount an EK II in the manner shown in the von Plettenberg pic you posted.

He had an BMVO officers cross with swords that probably fits the loops on your coat - not cheap, not cheap ...... 🙈

If there is no evidence of an EK II ribbon having been attached to the coat I would personally not attach one. Is the coat prewar or wartime? Some pics of the coat and loops might help. And perhaps this could offer some inspiration:

The clipping is from the Militär Handbuch 1914, and I have assumed the coat is one of the pre-war blue ones auctioned at HH and that this is your man. If you want to go with a foreign there: perhaps a ÖFJ1 or ÖEK2?

Possible, if he got one and the coat is wartime, if it is prewar, this would look good though: https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/6920260/ and checking hte HH catalogue there was one in the estate. Perhaps a commanders grade pre-war foreign award? unfortunately, the only commanders grade I noticed on checking hte catalogue was the ÖMVO2, and these tend to be only slightly less expensive than the BMVO2. But if he was awarded something Italian for example, that might work. Cheers, Sandro

A commanders cross at the neck would not be uncommon (in your case, BMVO2/BMVO2X?) Cheers, Sandro

Very nice, congratulations.

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From the pic that seems to be the case, but there is a very big gap between 1892, when he received 2nd class, and 1906 when he became Vizeadmiral. And the 2nd class is an award worn at the neck. That said, eMedals gives 41 x 39 mm for a third class cross and 48 x 52 mm for a commanders cross. Wiki gives 30 mm for the Diamond Jubilee medal partially covering the alleged St. Stanislaus, and the Zentenarmedaille on the left side of it measures 40 mm. The order believed to be a St. Stanislaus is definitely substantially larger than both of these medals, so given relative sizes it seems possi

Fair enough, Karlo. Problem is that the hidden decoration strongly resembles the St. Stanislaus, and that there are not many orders that look like that. Moreover, mostfo his foreign decorations look to have bene Komtur grade or higher. In the pic Schmidt looks to hold Vizeadmiral rank. When did he achieve that rank, when was he awarded the RSt2mSt and did he have a third class of the order at any time after his appointment as Vizeadmiral? Regards, Sandro