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    Streptile

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    1. I think 25th Company was in the Third Battalion of the Grenadier Guards in c. 1900. Can anyone tell me if 23rd Company was also in Third Battalion at the same time? Having a hard time finding this information. Thank you in advance for any help.
    2. Thanks Andy. Yes, they're mine. I am trying to find great old frames to mount them. I'd love any further info you might know about them.
    3. Hi Tony. Thanks very much for your reply and for the unit numbers. Much appreciated. Trevor
    4. I picked these up because I thought they were beautiful but I'd love to know more about them. Each is about 22" x 17". Camp colors from the grenadier Guards. 23rd and 25th Company. This is what I've read, from here: These examples are supposedly from the reign of Edward VII 1901-1910. Does that sound correct? Anyway I would be grateful for any more information. I don't see any others for sale so I have no idea of the value either.
    5. Hi Jay, This is a 1914 cross by maker KO that has been shaved and repainted by a faker. All the best, Trevor PS: Apologies for my late reply, I check this site only very rarely.
    6. Hey Jay, I just mean that the elements of the core -- the date numerals, oakleaf spray and cypher -- are rendered in specific designs used only on 1914 EK2s. The designs of all authentic 1813 EK2 cores are well known (there are only about five known 1813 cores) and are different in every aspect from the eBay piece. Also the frame is a 1914 type. 1813 EK2 frames have a different look with a higher bead count. Have a look at an original 1813 EK2 and compare to the piece on offer. Here is an original: Hope this is clear.
    7. The design of the core is a well-known 1914 one. The frame design is also well known from WWI EK2s.
    8. The maker of this cross is almost certainly AWS Berlin. No sure way to say when it was made but I'd guess in the 1920s.
    9. That piece is a complete fake -- a reworked 1914 EK2.
    10. Thank you for rescuing this thread from obscurity, and also for your nice comment. I wish I could find a photo of this particular von Alvensleben. Can anyone suggest a good resource? There are more items in this group, which came from an attic in the USA and was identified by a friend of mine (not me).
    11. I have added this ribbon bar to Konstantin von Alvensleben (1866-1943) to my collection. The awards are: Prussia: 1914 EK2 Prussia: Red Eagle 4th with swords Baden: Zähringer Löwen with swords and oakleaves Germany: Hindenburg Cross with swords Germany: China Medal Baden: Regierungsjubiläumsmedaille in bronze Chile: Medal for German Instructors Does anyone have a photo of this particular von Alvensleben? A few internet searches have not turned up anything but his more famous forebears. I would be grateful for any photos or biographical information. Thank you.
    12. I thought Frackspangen usually had the catch on the right and the hinge on the left. This one has the catch on the left like a normal bar. How can you tell that this bar was set up as a Frack? Just trying to learn as bars are not my area of specialty.
    13. Also, a Centenary Medal in first place? I too have some doubts about the bar, although the parts (ribbons, medals, bar) do look good to me.
    14. Jim, Congrats on both pieces. These have got to be among the finest looking awards of the German states.
    15. This was a decent discussion: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=734393&highlight=PLM+ribbon
    16. Nice cross, probably from the 1920s or 1930s. I think the ribbon is a WWII or postwar ribbon. I've seen this cross before at auction, I'm sure of it. Almost bid on it back then...
    17. I understand that you would like a consensus but none exists. It's a lovely, well-made S&L-type piece from the period (let's say) 1939-1960. Even the value is not much affected by the debate about period of manufacture. The ribbon is still looking good and could be worth as much as the PLM.
    18. There is a lot of disagreement about this type. In my opinion the type was made by S&L during and after WWII. One can spot the differences between the wartime examples and the postwar examples by the quality of manufacture. Without holding that piece, it's hard to judge, but to me it looks like a good candidate for what I'd consider a WWII-era example. I should stress that I am in a minority in believing that these were made also during the war. Most believe they are all postwar. I believe that the vast majority are post-1945, but that some do exist from before 1945. Because of the controversy (or disagreement), there is not much price difference between putative wartime examples and definite postwar examples. Prices depend instead on objective observations of quality alone and range from about $500 (mediocre quality, definite 1960s or 1970s) to over $1500 (marked 800, excellent quality, what some collectors like me might consider WWII-era). Also, the eagle legs on yours appear to be cut out. I don't know if anyone knows whether this was something S&L did, or something collectors do to make them appear more like Wagners. Anyway, it's a nice piece and for the right price I'd buy it. The ribbon looks like a genuine WWI-era type but of course without better photos it's not possible to say. If it is, and if it's long, it's at least as valuable as the cross.
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