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alf, thank you for your consideration of others!! Andy Gefechte 05.09-19.11.17 Kämpf in der ?? 20.11.-25.11.17 Tankschlacht bei (should be place name here) 04.12.17-22.02.18 Stellungskämpfe (should be place name here) 27.03.-30.03.18 Grosse Schlacht (should be place name here) 31.03.-08.04.18 Grosse Schlacht (should be place name here) I think you are missing a page, as the list of battles is incomplete unterstehenden Truppenteil überwiesen [transferred to the unit noted below) ins Feld zu RIR 27 [ in the field to RIR 27] vom 11.-20.08.17 am Granatenwerfer- Kursus in Altengrabow teilgenommen. Mit Granatenwerfer 16 ausgebildet [participated in a mortar course in Altengrabow (a training area). [Trained on the Granatenwerfer 16] gut (good) something is missing- probably conduct] 1. Komp. d. Ers. Batl. Res. Inf. R. 27 (STAMP) vom ??-13/5.18 ?? Laz. Heiligenstadt, Johanniter Krankenhaus [ from 13./5.18 in the Johanniter hospital in Heiligenstadt am 14/5.18 z. ?? Kp. Ers. Btl. RIR 27 " 18./5 " 1. " " " " am 15.8.18 d. 54. Div. überwiesen on 14./5/18 (transferred) to the ?? company of the Ersatz Batl. RIR 27 on the 18th (transferred) to the 1. company of the Ersatz Batl. RIR 27 on 15.8.18 transferred to the 54. Division Stammrolle F. Führung: gut 486 Strafen: keine regimental roll number: 486 conduct good, punishment: none k.v. (fit for field duty)

Alf, Certainly, though I do not see any need to ask

Alf, Here is a transcription and loose translation Andy 26.07.17 war vom 17.06.17-28.07.17 bei nebenstehenden Komp. eingestellt [4. Komp. II. Ersatz Batl Anhalt. Inf. R. 93 Dessau] between 17.06.17-28.07.17 in 4th company of II Ersatz Batl. IR 93 Am 28.07.17 zur 3. Komp. II. E. 93 transferred to 3rd company II Ersatz Batl. IR 93 Führung: gut conduct good Strafen: kein punishment: none 15.05.1918: war vom 05.09.17 bis 08.04.18 bei neben stehenden Truppenteil. [9. Komp. RIR 27] in 9th company RIR 27 between 15.05.18-05.09.17 Am 08.04.18 verwundet durch G.G. lk. Unterarm bei Morenil wounded in left lower left arm on 08.04.18 by grenade near Morenil Johanniter Krankenhaus Heiligenstadt (Erichsfeld) in the Johanniter hospital in Heiligenstadt (Erichsfeld) Orden u. Ehrenzeichen: Verw. Abz. schwarz 04.05.18 EKII 08.05.18 orders and decorations wound badge in black on 04.05.18 Iron Cross II 08.05.18 Führung: gut conduct: good Stafen: bei 9/27 keine no punishment while in 9th company RIR 27 Strafe (3 Monate Gefängnis/sein 12-13 auf Grund des allerhöchsten Gnadenerlasses vom 27.01.1918 erlassen. Verfg. des Gerichts der stellv. 15. Inf. Brig. vom 21.03.18 sentenced to 3 months in jail, but released as a result of the (royal) amnesty dated 27.01.1918

That is Leutn. Hohendorf. He recived a commission dated 21.05.1916. Unfortunately, I have no additional information to provide. Andy

Erwin, I used Wegner's "Stellenbesetzung der deutschen Heere" as well as the Militärwichenblatt plus a few "Dienstaltersllisten" for his promotions. The problem with Wegner is that he does not usually provide end dates. I use the date that the next officer took over, not always the same date the first officer departed, hence differences. What sources did you use to find his command of RIR 15 and as Komdt of Nordeney?? Andy (arb)

Bernhard von Pressentin. His last command was as Kom. d. 1. Feldart. Brig. He retired as a char. Gen.Lt. on 17.06.1897. Andy

Wild Card, Here are some career dates for the original owner of your wonderful bar!!! Andy Carl Groschupf 21.08.41 born in Essen b. Wittlage in Hannover 15.11.23 died in Dresden 16.07.63 als Pionier 1. Kl. in Hannover. Ing. Komp. eingetr. 27.05.64 prov. Sek.Lt. 27.05.65 Prem.Lt. 15.01.67 aus dem Hann. Militär Dienste entlassen 01.04.67 als Oberlt. in sächs. Pion. B. 12 angestellt 01.07.68-31.10.69 Festungs Ingenieur auf Festung Königstein 15.09.70-10.01.71 Führ. d. mob. 2. Feld Pion. Komp. 05.06.72-21.01.75 Komp. Führ. 17.07.74 char. Hptm. 21.01.75 Hptm. m. Patent vom 17.07.74 01.08.75-01.04.78 zu den Fest. Bauten in Metz 01.04.81 zum Inf. R. 103 20.07.86 Major 01.04.87 Batl. Kom. im Inf. R. 133 29.04.90 als char. Oberstlt. z. Disp. gest. Feldzüge: 1866 in Thüringen. Schlacht b. Langensalza 1870/71: Schlacht b. St. Privat, Einschließung von Metz, Belagerung von Paris, Ausfallgefecht von Bondy Source: Stammliste d. Hannoverschen Pion. B. Nr. 10

My guess is he stayed behind with the Ersatz Eskadron, hence the lack of EK and a non-combatant KDM. A DR 5 unit history might clear that point up.

Claudio, Another wonderful bar! I'll leave it up to you and others to decide whether this bar did belong to von Stamford. In case you confirm that it did, here are his career highlights. As you can see, he served his entire "Prussian" career in Drag. R. 5. Andy Ludwig Theodor von Stamford (23.11.1832-??) 04.03.84 m. Pens. u.d. Unif. d. DR 5 z. Disp. gestellt 08.03.83 d. etatsm. St. Offiz. vom Drag. R. 5, unter Verleihung d. Ranges eines Regiments Kommandeurs, mit Belass. sr. bish. Unif. zu d. Offizieren von der Armee vers. 13.09.82 Oberstlt. 26.06.75 Major 11.04.67 Rittm. 30.10.66 in Drag. R. 5 übernommen If he was taken into the Prussian army from the old Kurhessian army after its defeat in 1866, would this not mean he fought against the Prussians in 1866 and not with them?????? 27.07.60 Prem.Lt. 04.10.51 Sek.Lt. in Kurhess. 2. Hus. R.

Claudio, Here is Hugo Oster's military career Andy Hugo Oster (01.10.1882-??) 1959 wohnt noch in Gelsenkirchen 1951 Ob. Std. R. a.D., Gelsenkirchen, Sellmannshof 11 1942-1944 Komdt. d. Oflag VII A 12.10.37-1939 Kom. d. Wehrbez. Gelsenkirchen (als Oberst(E) 01-05-34 (2) 1935-1936 Komdt. d. Tr.Üb.Pl. Stablack 1934 b. St. d. 15. Inf. R. 01.04.31-1933 Kom. d. Ausb./4. Inf. R. (Neustettin) 1930-01.04.31 b. St. I./6. Inf. R. 1929 Lehr. an d. Inf. Schule 1928 b. St. III./16. Inf. R. 1925-1927 Chef 12./16. Inf. R. 1924 b. St. III./16. Inf. R. 15.09.22-1923 Adj. d. Inf. Sch. Abtl. I München 01.08.21-15.09.22 b. St. d. Reichsw. Inf. R. 3 (Deutsch-Eylau) 01.10.20-01.08.21 Komp. Chef im Reichs. Inf. R. 3 (Marienburg) 13.07.19-01.10.20 Adj. d. Instr. Führers Reichw. Brig. 32 10.03.19-12.07.19 Adj. d. gem. 22. Inf. Brig. (Grenzschutz Ost) 10.03.19 z. Inf. R. 68 vers. 19.06.18 PHOvH3mSchw 23.01.18-21.09.18 Kom. d. Batls. Brügge im Matrosen R. 5 03.06.17-22.01.18 Leiter d. Komp. Führer Kurse d. Marine K. 20.03.17-02.06.17 Lehrer d. Komp. Führer Kurse b. Sturm B. 1 28.01.17-19.03.17 Komp. Führ. i. Ers. Dep. d. Marine K. [22.10.16 EKI] 05.05.16-27.01.17 Komp. Führ. i. 2. Mar. Inf. R. 04.06.15-04.05.16 Adj. d. 3. Matr. Brig. 10.02.15-03.06.15 Adj. d. 1. Matr. R. [03.10.14 EKII für Antwerpen] 15.09.14-09.02.15 Adj. d. 2. Matr. Art. R. 02.08.14-02.09.14 Adj. d. II. Stamm See B. 01.10.13-31.07.14 k.z. Seminar f. orient. Sprachen v. III. Stamm See B. 10.08.12 in I. See B. [01.10.10-01.11.10 k.z.Gew. Fabr. Erfurt] 01.03.10-10.08.12 Adj. II./Inf. R. 68 (Coblenz) 15.11.04 Leutn. m. Patent vom 18.10.04 19.02.04 Fähnr. 03.07.03 als Fahnenj. in Inf. R. 68 eingetr. 01.10.82 in Elberfeld geb., Vater Notar, Mutter geb. Ossendorff Gen.Maj. ????? Oberst 01-05-34 (8) Oberstlt. 01-02-32 (16) Major 01-01-28 (5) Hptm. 22-03-15 X18x (3) Oberlt. 18-10-13 E4e1 Leutn. 18-10-04 G13

Geoff, Welcome to GMIC! As I am not an air force guy, I'll leave it to the experts to provide details on his air force "career." I can say that he was promoted to Leutn.d.Landw. I. (Landwehrbezirk Frankfurt .M.) on 28.121914 while serving with Füs. R. 90. Andy

In the 1914 Austrian Army list there were three active officers names Ontl. Major August Ontl, Batl. Kom. in IR 14 date of rank as Major 01.05.1912 Hptm. Friedrich Ontl in IR 59 date of rank as Hptm. 01.05.1903 Hptm. Joseph Ontl in IR 59 date of rank as Hptm. 01.05.1912 I think that the first two are your best candidates, as Friedrich certainly would have been promoted Major by 1918. Since I am not that familiar with the Austrian officers of 1914/18, I'll leave it to those who are to perhaps determine if any of these is the man in the photograph. Andy

I read k.k. Major Outl als Gast mit den Offiz. der Brig(ade). Stab 16.08.18 Brig St. (Offz) bei ?? 16.08.18 Oberst Gottberg am 17.8.18 gefallen that colonel was Lorenz von Gottberg (05.01.1862-17.08.1918) Here are his wartime commands as far as I can determine them 17.08.18 in franz. Flandern gef. 22.06.18-17.08.18 Kom. d. 96. Res. Inf. Brig. 13.01.17-22.06.18 ?? 21.05.15-13.01.17 Kom. d. Inf. R. 98 01.10.14-05.04.15 Kom. d. Inf. R. 55 04.05.12-01.10.14 Kom. d. III./Inf. R. 55 (Detmold) His promotions: Oberst 18-10-17 Oberstlt. 24-12-14 Major 17-09-09 Andy

Andreas, Well, at least you can discount this one. As a general statement, it would be quite helpful if future posts requesting identifications and such include all known information- such as awards in this case. Knowing this would have helped eliminate this Schaumann immediately. Thanks, Andy

Andreas, After I posted my response, I noticed that you have his name as Schaumnn in the title but not in the body of the message, so, now I am convince this is your man. There was no officer named Schumann in the Hannovarian army in 1866 as far as I can tell, nor was there an officer in the Prussian army 1871 named Schumann who served with another contingent prior to 1866. There was a Hannoverian Rittm. Adolf Carl Freidrich Schaumann who entered the Prussian army after Hannover's defeat. I can't find any connection to the Schleswig Holsetein army, but, his last assignment might be a clue that he is your man. This is Schaumann's career from 1866: Adolph Carl Friedrich Schaumann (*13.06.1822 †12.04.1903) 1904 listed in the DOA event hough he had already died 1897 living as an Oberstlt. z.D., in Hannover 19.04.73-14.07.85 Kom. d. Landw. Bez. Rendsburg (II./Landw. R. 85) 12.12.71-19.04.73 b. St. d. Hus. R. 5 1867-12.12.71 aggr. d. Ulan. R. 16 u. dann Esk. Chef im Ulan. R. 16 1866 hann. Garde Hus. R., Reg. Quartiermeister Orden 1885 PRAO4 PKrO3 PDK HG3 MMV2 Orden 1871: PDK HG3 MMV2 Oberstlt. 14-08-75 (Charakter) Major 21-10-69 Rittm. 20-06-59 Pr.Lt. 23-10-46 Sek.Lt. 12-01-38 I think this officer is a strong candidate! Andy

Unfortunately, I still do not have a working scanner, so, I am not able to post a page from the book. It is a very useful book, though it is best used with other sources. It includes all Prussian officers killed in action, active, reserve, Landwehr and those recalled for the war. Here is Unruh's entry as an example of the format and type of information provided Unruh.........L.d.R. RIR 216 RIR 240 15.2.17 Ripont. The first unit given is the one in which he received his commission and the second in which he was killed So, as long as you know a name and date of death, you should be able to find any officer. Andy

Given the fact he was killed in action, I used Uebe's "Ehrenmal des preußischen Offizierkorps" to determine his units and the 1915 edition of the MIlitärwochenblatt, column 3449 for his date and unit of commision. Andy

David, It's very hard to say. I have seen many instances where a man is commissioned as a reserve Lt in a regiment but never actually served with that regiment. I am not saying this is the case here, but I mention it to illustrate how difficult iti is to "trace" war-time reserve Lts who were not commissioned in a pre-war regiment. Andy

David, He was commissioned on 07.08.1915, but I can not say when he went to RIR 240. Andy

David, He was commissioned Lt.d.R. in RIR 216 but was killed while serving with RIR 240. Andy

Chris, I think it is "Nervenshok"- a misspelling of Nervenschock???. Andy

That is Johann Schönberger, *06.08.1882 in Weiden and Leutn.d.R. d. 11. bay. IR in 1914. He spent the war in Bavarian signal units: He was a "telegraphischer Postsekretär" in Augsbrg as a civilan. 02.08.14-31.12.16 b. Etappen Telegrpahen Direktion 6 01.01.17-24.02.17 B. Armeefernsprech Abtl 106 25.02.17-11.09.17 Fernsprech Abtl. 663 12.09.17-?? Fernsptrech Abtl. 603 Andy

Flyingdutchman, You are very welcome. It is always a pleasure to assist a collector like you who obviously enjoys the history of an item such as "your" busby. Andy

Fylingdutchman, Thank you for such a nice post with wonderful photos and great story. Such a busby and its original owner deseve as complete a history as possible, and so I provide his military career here in detail. Also, his adjutant's full name was Ernst von Laffert-Woldeck, born 15.11.1883 in Grabow, Mecklenburg Andy Viktor Digeon von Monteton (22.09.1866-12.08.1914) 12.08.14 b. Haelen gef. 20.05.14-12.08.14 Kom. d. Drag. R. 18 (Parchim) 23.05.11-20.05.14 b. St. d. Hus. R. 10 (Stendal) 20.07.07-23.05.11 Adj. b. XIV. AK (Karlsruhe), U.d. Drag. R. 20 14.09.00-20.07.07 Chef 1./Drag. R. 20 (Karlsruhe) 01.04.00-14.09.00 in 2./Drag. R. 20 (Karlsruhe) 01.04.98-30.03.00 k.z. Dienstl. b. gr. Gen. St. v. Drag. R. 20 1896-01.04.98 Adj. d. Drag. R. 20 (Karlsruhe) 1895 in 5./Drag. R. 20 (Karlsruhe) 1894 in 1./Drag. R. 20 (Karlsruhe) 1892-1893 k.z. Milit. Reit Inst. 1891 in 2./Drag. R. 20 (Karlsruhe) 1890 in 3./Drag. R. 20 (Karlsruhe) 1889 in 5./Drag. R. 20 (Karlsruhe) 1888 in 1./Drag. R. 20 (Karlsruhe) 18.03.86-1887 in 4./Drag. R. 20 (Mannheim/Durlach) 18.03.86 als Sek.Lt. v. Kad. K. d. Drag. R. 20 überw. Promotion dates Oberstlt. 19-08-14 [named in the promotion list even though he had already been killed in action ] Major 10-09-08 Rittm. 14-09-00 Oberlt. 15-11-94 Leutn. 18-03-86

Here are a few additions for you: Andy Generalmajor Wilhelm von Brozowski Vater: Oberstlt. a.D. Mutter: geb. Holzapfel Gattin: geb. Teichert 09.08.1870: Kadettenkorps als Portepeefähnrich dem 4. Westfälischen Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 17 01.07.75-01.10.78 Adjutant des II. Bataillons 01.01.80-02.01.83 Assistent an d. Milit. Schießschule 02.01.83-12.06.86 Adjutant d. Milit. Schießschule 12.06.1886: 1. Großherzoglich Hessische Infanterie Regiment 115 18.09.1886: Chef 6./1. Großherzoglich Hessische Infanterie- (Leibgarde) Regiment 115 16.04.1889: à la suite d. FR 86 gestellt u. Kompanie Führer an d. Unteroffiz. Schule Weißenfels 17.09.1892: Kompaniechef im 1. Hessischen Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 81 22.03.1895 - 21.07.1900: Bataillonskommandeur 22.07.00-12.09.02 b. Stab des 1. Hannoverschen Infanterie-Regiments Nr. 74 12.09.1902: Führung des Infanterie-Regiments „Herwarth von Bittenfeld“ (1. Westfälisches) Nr. 13 in Münster 18.10.02 Oberst u. Kommandeur d. Inf. R. 13 22.04.05 Kommandant von Glogau 22.03.07 Charakter als Gen.Maj. 24.03.09 mit Pension zur Disposition gestellt