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In my opinion the most beautiful of all of the communist Yugoslavia medals, in any case the rarest one.

http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_10_2012/post-7937-0-15161700-1351694902.jpg.

Greetings gentlemen,

There are 2 variants of this medal. First type (1952-1963) with the inscription Federativna Narodna Republika Jugoslavija (FNRJ) and the second type

with the inscription Socijalisticka Federativna Republika Jugoslavija (SFRJ). According to some sources only 845 of these medals were awarded (1952-1985).

Strange thing about this medal is that it takes the last place in the order of precedence but it was awarded 100-250 times less than the rest of the medals,

and less than a bigger part of orders!

Here is mine, the first, FNRJ type, unfortunately ribbon has been changed.

Greetings gentlemen,

I just wanted to conclude that in the post #3 we can see pictures of all 4 (5) types of the Charity Cross.

-- 1. type has a year 1912 inscribed with large numbers on the front side with the Cyrillic text "ZA NEGU RANJENIKA I BOLESNIKA"

(for taking care of the wounded and the sick) around it.

-- 2. type is the same as the previous except the year is changed to 1913, and the eagle on the back side is silver. Only on this type color

of the eagle is silver, on the rest of the medals it is always golden.

-- 3. type has the inscription "ZA NEGU" in the central part of the medal and the the rest of the slogan "RANJENIKA I BOLESNIKA"

and the year 1912 around it. This type has 2 variants. First - medal is minted from a single piece of metal, and the second variant

where the central part is made separately and then applied to the cross.

-- 4. type is different by size. First three types are 40x40mm while dimensions of the central part are 15x15mm,

fourth type is 38x38mm and 18x18mm.

Regards,

Radmilo

Don't mention it Igor.

I think that you have a great collection of Serbian bravery decorations. You have managed to collect all types of bravery medals from the

Karadjordjevic dynasty era. Maybe you should get one White Eagle with swords just to keep company to Karageorge Star with swords. :)

GC you are welcome. I will now upload couple of pictures of these hat badges. All of them are different.

But first I would just like to point out that non of these are mine and that all of the pictures are from various internet auction sites

(at least I think so). I hope that no one will mind.

Regards,

Radmilo

Paul you are welcome, I'm glad if my reply helped you. This question about monograms has been bothering me for quite some time as well.

Maybe the answer can be found in the book, unfortunately I still haven't got a copy of my own.

Regards,

Radmilo

You are most welcome Igor. My apologies once again if I mislead you.

So in the end there are 4 producers of 3rd type of St. Sava.

-- 1. Huguenin

-- 2. Sorlini, 3 variants:

- Low quality

- Better quality

- Rare variant with the Saint in the red robes (only 4th and 5th grade with FS hallmark on the ring, http://gmic.co.uk/in...known-producer/)

-- 3. Griesbach and Knaus (only 4th and 5th grade with GK hallmark on the ring)

-- 4. Zimmermann

If there are more producers and/or variants or if I got something wrong please feel free correct me.

Best regards,

Radmilo

I forgot to mention in previous reply, there is a separate Lost & Stolen section here on GMIC.

http://gmic.co.uk/in...lost-or-stolen/

But I think it would attract more attention if you make topics about the stolen orders in the sections for a specific country or region.

Best regards,

Radmilo

It's really sad that the burglars took your grandfather's orders. Maybe you should register on every forum like GMIC that you can

find and post the list of orders that were stolen from you. Burglars will most likely try to sell them and if they are stupid enough

to a commit a crime like that then they might stupid enough to try to sell them for example on ebay-like sites. It can't hurt to notify

collecting community about this, maybe someone somewhere will stumble upon your grandfather's orders.

Igor I have recently discovered that Griesbach and Knaus were producing only 4th and 5th grade of the St. Sava

and that all of them can be recognized by the GK hallmark on the ring of the order.

That means that your star must be Sorlini! My apologies. But I'm still not able to distinguish G&K from Sorlini

by the looks of the Saint. Luckily there are those hallmarks to help us with that question.

Best regards,

Radmilo

Thanks for the pictures! I was in the middle of reply when you uploaded them, so I didn't see them before posting my reply.

Guess that must be FS or silver hallmark there.

Greetings Obi and welcome to GMIC.

I first want to congratulate you on your purchase. I hope that you do not mind that I have used these pictures from ebay.

I haven't seen this model many times before and I just wanted to find out who is the producer.

In the meantime I did some research online and I've discovered that this really is Sorlini. They have produced only 4th and

5th grade like this and they all wear FS hallmark on the ring. If I'm not mistaking hallmark can also be seen on the 3rd picture here.

Too bad that there are not many people like him today. A man honored by his workers and employees, people under him,

is a man who really earned his respect.

The badge was meant to be worn around the neck and I think that the star was meant to be worn on the right side of the chest.

I also think that the order was worn only on special, ceremonial occasions.

Best regards,

Radmilo

One more.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/130601031081?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

You are most welcome Oz, I'm glad I was able to help you a little bit.

Great story, sounds like your grandfather was a very interesting man, you must be proud of him.

Nice photo of Marshal Tito, thank you for sharing it with us!

Your grandfather must have been on some higher position when he was awarded Yugoslav flag 2nd class.

Please don't forget to post some pics of the box too. Can't wait to see them.

I've just stumbled upon this on ebay, but my opinion is that the price is far too high.

http://www.ebay.com/...=item2576a9762c