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  1. The medal you posted, is in my book and is listed as a reproduction type 2. Two things to help a collector identify this an un-official medal is: one is the ball type suspension, the second is rays around the head numbering just eleven, and third is it marked on the rim at 6 o'clock. Last, this one is covered under Section 304 of the Tariff Act of 1930, as amended (19 U.S.C. 1304), articles of foreign origin imported into the U.S. shall be marked (made in) in a conspicuous place as legibly, indelibly, and permanently as the nature of the article will permit. This marking helps date this medal
  2. I agree with Herman, these are not U.S. issued clasps. In my book on page 57 & 58. I list this clasp as type 3 unofficial. The key to this clasp is the used of a upside down letter "W" used in place of the letter "M", note as seen on the top 4 of 8 clasps illustrated. This unknown manufacturer put out three different marked clasps. The lettering on three clasps remained same on the front , it is where manufacturer placed the needed import stamp word/s "FRANCE" and "Made in France" on the backstrap.
  3. That a boy Bill great catch. Bill Is it not a big shame how people are looking to make things, something they are not.
  4. Sorry for a late reply. The way it worked for naval persons entitled to more than one clasp was they had the option to choose the clasp they wanted. Remember this, the naval version of Victory Medals were not available until the fall of 1920, which was months later than the Army. Adding the Marines and sailors who were separated from naval service to serve as part of the AEF under the Army command were awarded their Victory Medal with or without battle clasps by the Army. Why, because the Army alone had their records of service.
  5. The ship listed above are shown with an earned clasp, many other ships would have been given a medal without a clasp on the victory medal, if their service was not in a battle zone or was for date after the war. Your medal list the captain of the Kerlew as a LTCd, where as the info on the Kerlew shows his rank as a LT only. Sometimes history and information is not always clear. Getting that information to me is the large part, and the happy part of collecting.
  6. All the ships below received one, two or more award clasps, but only one clasp will be award. Ship name Operating from To Clasp Abarenda 15 Apr 18 20 Apr 18 Asiatic Abarenda 13 Jun 18 13 Jun 18 Asiatic Absaroka 22 Oct 18 11 Nov 18 Transport Absaroka 26 Mar 18 22 Oct 18 Armed guard Absecon 12 Oct 18 05 Nov 18 Patrol Achilles 05 Jul 18 11 Nov 18 Armed guard Acteaon 15 Jun 17 25 Nov 17 Ar
  7. My thoughts, The door was slightly cracked open by others, but Alexander Laslo and myself (James Michels) have open the door a little wider into collecting Vic’s by our books, but like an iceberg the books are just the tip of it. Sometimes missed in a discussion is the fact that most European Victory Medals are not fully researched yet. Until we find when each of the known official and unofficial medal were made, and by whom, the story remain open with more to come. In my study of the American Victory Medal I found these medals were authorized several time by the U.S. Government t
  8. Good Morning, Oliver The USS Kerlew ID-1325, in the Navies numbering system stands for: USS Kerlew, Civilian Vessel, 1325, I find it very interesting that a battle line officer of a Lieutenant Commander would be used for ferrying coal across a 20-30 mile channel from England to France after the war. So I found her here: https://www.revolvy.com/page/USS-Kerlew-(ID%2D1325) USS Kerlew (ID-1325) was a United States Navy cargo ship in commission from 1918 to 1919. Kerlew was built in 1906 at Stockton-on-Tees, England, by Craig, Taylor and Company, Ltd.[2] Prior t
  9. I find it interesting that you think Naval pilots and their crews would turn down a clasps that said "Aviation". That Sub Chaser crews would not want clasps like: Mine Sweeper, Mine Layers, Patrol or even the clasp Sub Chaser clasp itself. On the other hand these very few Marines who served in these war countries were entitled to the clasp Overseas. Later some may have wanted the Army country clasp of the country in which they served. But In 1920 when the medals were being ordered there was no (Approved SevNav 5 Oct 1940). So they would not be added into that number. AND, they were under Nav
  10. Hi Herman, Each medal you find has its own story, and as Rob stated all collectibles should be left alone. There is no real value to be added to it if you change it. As I say, we do not own these items we are just the care takers. Regards Jim
  11. Nice medal. Is it 3mm? Also I will add this: It was asked on another forum why the USA service clasp like “France” would not be placed together with battles clasps on the same medal. I will try to explain it and hopefully it will answer future questions on why those two types of clasps are never issued together. If you had received one or more battle clasps, the battle clasp itself would be a clear indication of your service in that country. So to add a clasp, like France to your named battle clasps, would be redundant.
  12. (I am in with Tim B and Paul Wood, leave the ribbon alone) Hi Bill, this is from my book page 99 The nineteenth clasp, the West Indies, was not approved until much later, in December of 1921. Only the U.S. Mint manufactured this named clasp. (there are copies but this clasp you have is not a copy) I would like to add three thoughts: (1) This clasp is a U.S. Mint made clasp. (2) Great Lakes ILL is a training camp or “Boot Camp" mainly for new sailors. (3) USNRF stands for United States Naval Reserve Force. The last two facts would entitle a sailor to the victory medal, fo
  13. If i understand you rigth these are the two medals you are asking about. If these are medals, I do not think they are same medal and here's why. Ckeck the blue and red sections I have marked and you will see the differences between each.
  14. I am sorry for posting this article at such a late date and with added hopes of being able to help members find some information on the American clasps and its matrix. In my book I have posted a full page of over 40 clasps combination which I feel will aid the U.S. Collecters. Below is from my book, World War I, Victory Medals which was first published in 2014, with over 700 copies being purchased as of this post. Those interested in a copy my book is being sold on Amazon.com or Amazon.uk Publications Which Augment the Pamphlet There are many sources of
  15. Hello, Jannis, Your medal of Charles, Charles is an unofficial medal as I am sure you know by now. I have added a little history. In 1920, in France a design competition was created. The main stipulation was that it was only open to French artists who were also combatants. The Government of France was slow in selecting the final design of their Victory Medal, causing French veterans to grow exceedingly impatient. A further delay was due to the time it took to determine the criteria to be used to define eligibility for the medal. This process lasted until 1923, even though privat
  16. Lambert, How many of this type rare documents will you see in your lifetime? 1 maybe 2. If I were younger and planning on collecting Victory Medal items for many more years I would myself purchase this item even at a higher cost. Will you lost money, maybe but I don't think so. Regards Jim
  17. Hi my book "World War I Victory Medals" will be coming out on KINDLE after a large request to do so by you. This is an excellent way to take your book to military shows for reference use. Start date as I've been told by Kindle is January 12. 2016 Regards, Jim .
  18. What a nice looking couple you two make, Merry Christmas as well. For those interested here is the new cover to my updated and expanded ed.
  19. To All, I am not sure how to pin an article so I am asking would someone do that for me. That way this article reaches all who need this update being offered. I have updated and expanded my book, World War I Victory Medals with new and additional files. My wish is to send to those who purchased my book these update as a gift for your support. I also hope that my book has added to your understanding of this well known, but largely misunderstand medal. There are 32 new pages, corrections and a new cover. For those with the interest in receiving a private PDF update, please send m
  20. If I have saved you one dollar or helped you "all" buy a little better I done my job.
  21. Hello Herman, In Commission on Fine Arts, own vault is the type-2. This is the victory medal given to them four months before any were issued to any veterans. From my book starting on page 74. Was There an Official Type-I (Wire-Loop)? As mentioned earlier, on November 14, 1919, the Commission of Fine Arts presented the final design of the Victory Medal by James Earle Fraser, to the Secretary of the War, Newton D. Baker. The medal casting was made by Medallic Art Company. Three months later, on February 11, 1920, the first Victory Medal, a type-2 (knob) suspension was presented to Presiden
  22. This grouping has the Rare Belgium / French Victory Medal + 4 other medals I will be posting on ebay 5/1/2015 This grouping was used in my book "World WAR I, Victory Medals Military Medal, Croix De Guerre (War Cross) with star, Croix De Combatant given to all those who fought as front-line soldiers, WWI Commemorative Medal given to all of those who served and the Rare Victory medal. This medal is based on the Belgium design. The main reason I think this medal is found on both French and Belgium grouping, is the back is blank and could be engaged. I wrote the book World War I, Victory medals p
  23. RARE Authorized and Official - Cuban Victory Medal I am posting it on ebay on 5/1/2015 Fourteen countries had a common victory medal. Of these the Cuban victory medal is the third rarest of the fourteen. The United States made about 3,000,000, the United Kingdom made about 6,000,000 and Cuba ordered about 6,000 to 7,000 which were made by the Establishment of ADREAN CHOBILLON, located in Paris. The Cuban medal, I marked "not for sale" on the right, is an just example of the most common of the 6,000-7,000 and is only there to help those interested in the medal which is for sale. During 1920,
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