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    Signalcorps45

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    1. Sorry Dean, but yours is a (nonsense combination?) fake bar by one of the usual ebay suspects, hagekna41.

      We've talked about him many times, and the forums search will probably reveal some of the talks on his stuff.

      Don't see anything here that suggest a wearer copy. The cross is totally textbook, so probably from early/mid war era.

      saschaw and Ulsterman,

      I had to dig through some records but this bar was bought from hagekna41. I bought two bars from him one was a Bavarian which has already been outed as a fake and this one. Luckily I kept records of who I bought things from.

      Dean

    2. I have never seen the Order of the White Elephant on a German bar! Talk about cool. I bet there is no problem in IDing this one, is there?

      Paul,

      Thank you for the nice comment. I have done some research and the Order of the White Elephant is a 5th class or "Member" Order. I assume it went to a diplomat working in Thailand. I would love to have it ID'd but I think the rank lists only list officers (I maybe mistaken). I don't think that this bar was to an officer, but again I maybe mistaken. If you have any suggestions on how I could ID this bar, please let me know.

      Dean

    3. 100110327

      Freiherr von

      Sartor auf Gansheim

      Karl

      Bay

      OTL aD

      J

      Bay

      BDA24

      16.05.1914

      100110327

      Freiherr von

      Sartor auf Gansheim

      Karl

      Bay

      OTL aD

      J

      Bay

      BJM

      16.05.1914

      100110327

      Freiherr von

      Sartor auf Gansheim

      Karl

      Bay

      OTL aD

      J

      Bay

      BMVO 4

      mKr

      16.05.1914

      100110327

      Freiherr von

      Sartor auf Gansheim

      Karl

      Bay

      OTL aD

      J

      Bra

      BrHdL 3b

      16.05.1914

      100110327

      Freiherr von

      Sartor auf Gansheim

      Karl

      Bay

      OTL aD

      J

      Pr

      PRAO 4

      mKr

      16.05.1914

      100110327

      Freiherr von

      Sartor auf Gansheim

      Karl

      Bay

      OTL aD

      J

      Bay

      BDA24

      16.05.1914

      100110327

      Freiherr von

      Sartor auf Gansheim

      Karl

      Bay

      OTL aD

      J

      Bay

      BJM

      16.05.1914

      100110327

      Freiherr von

      Sartor auf Gansheim

      Karl

      Bay

      OTL aD

      J

      Bay

      BMVO 4

      mKr

      16.05.1914

      100110327

      Freiherr von

      Sartor auf Gansheim

      Karl

      Bay

      OTL aD

      J

      Bra

      BrHdL 3b

      16.05.1914

      100110327

      Freiherr von

      Sartor auf Gansheim

      Karl

      Bay

      OTL aD

      J

      Pr

      PRAO 4

      mKr

      16.05.1914

      WNickel

      Thank you sir, for helping me ID this bar.

      Dean

    4. 100110327

      Freiherr von

      Sartor auf Gansheim

      Karl

      Bay

      OTL aD

      J

      Bay

      BDA24

      16.05.1914

      100110327

      Freiherr von

      Sartor auf Gansheim

      Karl

      Bay

      OTL aD

      J

      Bay

      BJM

      16.05.1914

      100110327

      Freiherr von

      Sartor auf Gansheim

      Karl

      Bay

      OTL aD

      J

      Bay

      BMVO 4

      mKr

      16.05.1914

      100110327

      Freiherr von

      Sartor auf Gansheim

      Karl

      Bay

      OTL aD

      J

      Bra

      BrHdL 3b

      16.05.1914

      100110327

      Freiherr von

      Sartor auf Gansheim

      Karl

      Bay

      OTL aD

      J

      Pr

      PRAO 4

      mKr

      16.05.1914

      100110327

      Freiherr von

      Sartor auf Gansheim

      Karl

      Bay

      OTL aD

      J

      Bay

      BDA24

      16.05.1914

      100110327

      Freiherr von

      Sartor auf Gansheim

      Karl

      Bay

      OTL aD

      J

      Bay

      BJM

      16.05.1914

      100110327

      Freiherr von

      Sartor auf Gansheim

      Karl

      Bay

      OTL aD

      J

      Bay

      BMVO 4

      mKr

      16.05.1914

      100110327

      Freiherr von

      Sartor auf Gansheim

      Karl

      Bay

      OTL aD

      J

      Bra

      BrHdL 3b

      16.05.1914

      100110327

      Freiherr von

      Sartor auf Gansheim

      Karl

      Bay

      OTL aD

      J

      Pr

      PRAO 4

      mKr

      16.05.1914

      I am not trying to be difficult, but I do not know what this means, please explain.

      Dean

    5. Bavarians normally did not receive the Centenary Medal. Among serving soldiers who were not veterans of 1870/71, it was mainly only awarded to members of regiments stationed in Alsace-Lorraine in 1897. These were:

      Stab 10.Inf.Brig. (Metz)

      Stab 5.Kav.Brig. (Dieuze)

      4.IR (Metz)

      8.IR (Metz)

      3.ChevR (Dieuze)

      5.ChevR (Saargemünd, except for 2./5.ChevR in Zweibrücken)

      II./23.IR (Saargemünd)

      I./2.FußAR (Metz)

      IIII./2.FußAR (Metz)

      There were also a number of random awards for which I am unsure of the specific reason. Some are because they were commanded to Prussian units at the time of the award. Among these, for example, was Anton Ritter von Löhr. Then Second-Lieutenant Löhr was at the Prussian Militär-Turnanstalt from 1.10.1896 to 1.8.1897.

      But if you look at the Militär-Handbuch des Königreichs Bayern nach dem Stande vom 1. Dezember 1897, you can see that most Bavarians did not have the medal.

      Regards

      Thanks Dave for clearing up that Bavarians normally did not receive the Centenary medal. This bar was not making sense if the wearer should have received the Centenary medal. It appears his service was in the late 1800s and early 1900s.

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