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  1. Hi Sandro, book is still available with me;which language would you be interested in (English I presume; and German is available as well) I can send the book on your address, you can write to me on my private adress, pavel.car (monkey) s5.net regards, Pavel
  2. Hello Igor, great Orders' clasp; I've never seen such a great combination of Serbian, Montenegrin and Russian medals. Red Cross seems to be on lady's bow (for men should be on triangular ribbon) - or is it by any chance just Russian way of folding the ribbon? And it's peacefull ribbon Would be possible for nurse to receive a Russian bravery medal? again, just great.... Pavel
  3. Dear all, thank you very much all data & comments. You've help me a lot to find out the real meaning of this medal & clasps. I'm attaching the photo of reverse. Broch is unfortunately missing. Ribbon itself is in quite bad shape. Medal, ribbon and bars look to me as a old piece. I know there are various typec of broches which can help to determine time frame, but here broch is unfortunately missing. I've bought this medal especially because of clasp ''Serbia'', as I've never come across such an item yet. But collecting Serbia and Yugoslavia mainly, I'm not an expert on US medals, but here you are to help. I've paid quite a lot (Too much I think) but when I encounter to something special or unususal connected to Serbia, I juts have to buy. I know Sebian medas were often bestowed to allied soldiers; I even saw an Gold Medal for Zealous Service with engraved name & unit (not in my collection unfortunately), and many allied medals were bestwoed to Serbian solediers. So, you never know.... regards, Pavel
  4. Need for help. I've got an interesting medal, WWI Victory Medal with three clasps: ''CHATEAU THIERRY'', ''CHANTIGNY'' and ''SERBIA'' . I was looking for list of the clasp in the book The Call of Duty (military awards and decorations of the USA, by Starndberg and James Bender), but among the long list of the clasps for WW1 medal, these three are not listed. Medal looks original to me. All three clasps have ''FRANCE'' engraved in reverse. Any idea about these clasps? Thanks in advance, Pavel
  5. Bosnian medal in a original cardboard box. Box has no markings; I've seen Bosnian medals as well in Luxury case from Rothe & Neffe, but as well with no special marking on lid, only usual Austrian coat-of-arsm regards, Pavel
  6. Dear all, I'm working on the book about German officers who were awarded with Croatian awards; I have enought original awarding documents but lacking of photos. I was this week in Belgrade in Military museum, but to access theirs photo archive seems not to be simple as German officers still beara tag of ''war criminal'' and I would need a special clearance (which on my oppinion won't be easy to get). However, so far my cooperation with museum was very good (working on Serbian & Yugoslav decorations) but attitude to foreigners (as I am for them) and WW2 is still... I'm kindly asking you if you have any photos with German officers wearing Croatian awards, I would appreciate good scans indeed. I'll as well kindly ask you to allow publishing in my book, of course stated the owner or collection. There were 2322 decorated German officers, who got alltogether 2803 decorations; 8 of them were decorated more than 10 times (18 decoration max; gen. Josef Brauner), 10 officers were got between 5 - 10 awards, 260 were decorated more than once... If any of you is interested in names or units, i'll be glad to help Some photos must be arround...... thanks in advance, Pavel
  7. Hello Josef, thanks for the answer; must be an interesting frack with JFO order and two medals. It would be nice to know if your medal is hallmarked or not; as I've never seen and non-hallmarked medal. The other position for Scheid's hallmark is of course ring of a medal; here is another picture with hallmark on ring. Mayer did in fact produced almost all Serbian orders and medals in very beginning, when other producers were involved in business as well (Rothe, Anton Fürst, Fleischhacker), but later almost all production was taken over by Scheid. here is another Scheid's hallmark on medal's ring.
  8. hallmark of Bavarian workshop of Jacob Leser; ''JL'' which often looks as roman number '' II '' and bavarian silver hallmark ''800'' (for silver finesy 800/1000)
  9. Dear Josef, nice picture you've posted; are these medals from a group (or just pictured together)? I have some answers on your questions; Medal shold have markers mark; either on ring or on the ''kugel'' (I'm enclosing pictures of mine) To my knowledge, most of the medals of this type (the 2nd type, period of Alexander Obrenovich 1889 - 1903) were made by G.A.Scheid, but Bavarian workshop of Jacob Leser produced medals as well, but in small quantities. However, all medals are hallmarked. (I'll enclose Leser's hallmark as well Braca Z. Popovich were supliers of the Chancelery of Royal Orders and had deliverd medals (both from Scheid and Leser) in own boxes, with theirs logo on the inner side of lid. No numbers of awarded medals exist, as on bombing of Belgarde one of the first German bombs hit the Chancellery of Royal Orders and all arcives went in flames. But number of medals awarded in Obrenovich era (1882 - 1903) is not very high. Gilding is indeed not very good; which is in contrast to usual quality of Viennese producers. Medals are often dark because silver oxide which come in front. With silver cleaner some of gilt can be restored, but be carefull.... sometimes cleaner can damage gilt.
  10. Congratulations, balkanphila, but you've paid a fortune; I was compeeting up to 300 E, than I've quit. I've bought mine at medal fair at Gunzenhausen, but without box (I have only Class IV medal of this type in box) However, I've paid for mine 1/10 of your price. So, box must be a fortune....
  11. I got a box for the Order of the Red Cross; it's bigger that my old box for the Offiziersehrenzeichen and quite different. Is it maybe fo the Verdienststern? Producer is Rothe & Neffe. On picture it's shown with my old one. And if someboby is interested, I'm willing to trade.... thanks for the help,
  12. I was lucky enough and have find a very rare box for the Order of the Star of Karageorge with Swords Class II on ebay. Class II order was bestowed only 18 times alltogather, 4 times to Serbian generals, the 14 awards went abroad. How rare was bestowal of this order can be seen from the Decree issued in Nish on 22 November 1914 which contained detailed criteria for the award of the Order of the Star of Karageorge with Swords. It is stated that 'this supreme order for services in wartime can be awarded to officers who have coupled extraordinary success with great effort and self-sacrifice on the battlefield or working on operational plans and assignments in higher staffs'. The Order of the Star of Karageorge with Swords Class I could only be awarded to the chief of the general staff for the 'felicitous end to the war' and to the commander of the main army or a large military formation on an individual battlefield 'for winning a battle of decisive importance in bringing about a victorious end to the war.' Class II could be awarded to army commanders 'whose successful leadership of the armies entrusted to them throughout the war contributed significantly to the felicitous end to the war' and to the deputy chief of the general staff and commanders of major operational units 'if they had accomplished an extraordinary deed contributing significantly to victory in major battles'. I've immediately filled my new box with appropriate items....
  13. I've got the original list of German officers who receive Croat decorations during WW2. List was prepared by the Chancellery of Croat Decorations in April 1945. It's 127 pages long and there are about 2600 German officers of listed in alphabetic order. Every officer has specified rank, unit and specific serial number of the documents of awarded decoration. The name of decoration is unfortunately not written. Many officers have more than one decoration, some of them like, especially some of German generals, as SS Obergruppenführer Arthur Phlep, Commander of 7th SS division, general Joseph Brauner, commander of 187th Infantry division or general d. infanterie Rudolf Lütters, commander of German troops in Croatia have very many Croat decorations, over 15 each of them. There were hardly enough of all Croat decoration to fulfill this number. I would really like to find out what they had received in fact. Does anybody know if listings of foreign awards to German officers exist? Looking forward to get some hints.... Regards, Pavel
  14. I was able to get a nice set, a Navy Bicorn Hat from Royal Yugoslav Navy (which is not so rare), but it's placed in original case (which I haven't seen many times) The Navy Bicorn Hat was used as a part of parade dress, is shaped almost entirely upon to model of Austro-Hungarian hat; with only minor modifications. Parade epaulettes for junior officer are part of an ensemble as well. All items are in mint state.
  15. Medal clasp with Gold and Silver medal for Zealous Service from different workshops
  16. You have some rare pieces, Balkanfila. Medal for Zeal (official name Medal for Zealous Service (from 1913, as two earlier versions, 1877/76 and 1885/86 exist) was the most common medal for young officers and NCOs (together with Medal for Military Merits). As such, it has many producers. I'm enclosing paragraph & few pics form my book about Serbian medals. I'll not show the ones with two crowns balkanfila has just shown. Both classes of Medals for Zealous Service were awarded in large quantitues in all periods. Regardless of the political changes in the country and its designations, the medals retained their original appearance. Variants were the results of the manufacturer’s artistic licence. The first medals, which were manufactured strictly in keeping with the terms of the law, were produced in the workshop of Arthus-Bertrand. In the later period, the workshop of Huguenin Frères was also included in the production. The workshop of Friedrich Orth in Vienna produced medals with a characteristic detail of the coat of arms on the reverse. Most medals have one crown above the double-headed eagle, but this model has a crown above each of the eagle’s heads. During the period of the Kingdom of SHS and later Yugoslavia, Medals for Zealous Service were also manufactured by the local workshops of Fran Sorlini, Griesbach & Knaus and Kovnica PLC. As the medals are not hallmarked, their provenance can only be conjectured. Two medals manufactured by Arthus Bertrand of Paris
  17. Hi, It might be an theater piece, but blouse has excelent inner finish as well, which is not common with theater pieces. Otherwise, I agrre with all you've said. It might be made for English military person in Vienna, or a KuK high ranking officer with a honorary rank in British army, so many KuK elements are involved, as Viennese tailors were used to. P.
  18. Hi, I've seen it as well. In the firts moment I was astonished, but..... With more close lookd of the details it is definitively NOT KuK (on my opinion) in spite of having sign of an Austrian producer. details on the sleeves and details of the loops aren't exactly KuK In addition, feldmarschal rank never exist on husar's blouse. On my opinion, belgium or English. These are ot my area, so I'm not sure. But as I'me mentioned, on the first glance....
  19. Hi Brian, you've started a very inrteresting issue about silver Signum Laudis. For % of solid silver medal; my estimation is 20 - 25% should be silver medals, the rest silvered bronze. But it's an interesting question, why for the officer's decoration silver was not used for all medals? I started to ask myself as well how many of them were awarded. I've found some interesting numbers in the book Die Bosniaken Kommen (The Bosnians are comming) about elite fighting troops of KuK monarchy. Book has as well number of awarded decorations. I'll put some of them here, might be interested for all of you. (Numbers don't enclude last year, namely 1918 neither offiecrs who were KIA before 1917) bronze Signum Laudis Silver Signum laudis MilitaerVerdienstKreuz Order of Iron Crown Class III gold Bravery medals 1st class silver 2nd class silver bronze BH1 93 78 119 26 20 521 2000 5000 BH2 87 60 113 29 42 590 1950 4300 BH3 191 78 90 15 10 477 1450 3860 BH4 181 72 122 34 15 348 1900 4570 If we take app. number of each decoration per regiment (in fact it should be lower as BH regiment were hifghly decorated units), and taking into account that KuK army has about 170 infantry regiments + artitely, cavalry, etc etc.. you can have an idea.... (for silver signum laudis my estimation is 20.000 +/- 5.000) regards, Pavel
  20. Hello Tim, Yes, I was wrong about the year, but it's 1866 (instead of 1966). Medals didn't change Franz Joseph portrait 50 years (from 1866 til 1916) Now I can see ribbon clearly, indeed it's an originaal. And you're right, ifficers were not entitled to 2nd class medal, so only possible attachment is repetition bar. But this one was normaly sewn and not attached with pins. regards, bovec1313
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