Bosungus

Is this an M34 side cap or possibly an M38 sidecap? The grommetts and the stitching seems different from most M34's I have seen. Thanks

Can someone identify this ribbon, its has a pin back and the ribbon is sewn around the bar in black thread thanks.

http://www.emedals.ca/catalog.asp?item=A901#bigPic AustriaU-Boot Badge, WWIBadge in blackened white metal, tong on reverse in tombac, die struck, numbered “57” on the reverse bottom, circa 1917, Worn, very good condition and scarce

Anyoe have knowledge of the number 3 on a WW1 US Victory medal?

Thanks all. this is why I have joined the forum, indepth discussion, sharing of ideas and opinions and too learn all the peculiarities in these u boat badges. There is so much to learn and its obvious that you have acquired alot of knowledge and are able to apply it. I have learned a lot and I thank you all for sharing it. thanks, Bosungus

Hi TimB, I have studied the scroll and to me they do not appear the same. In addition the cross on the crown certainly is not of the same mold as the example you posted. There appears to me, too many differences. Thanks, Gus

Yes Johnnymac, thanks, Bosungus

Hi, As a point of clarification are the following clasps Navy Service authorized, In this case including the France clasp? "The U.S. Navy issued similar service clasps to the Army for service in the following regions during the following periods: (Wikipedia) England (April 6, 1917 to November 11, 1918)France (April 6, 1917 to November 11, 1918)Italy (April 6, 1917 to November 11, 1918)Russia (November 12, 1918 to July 31, 1919)Siberia (November 12, 1918 to March 30, 1920)West Indies (April 6, 1917 to November 11, 1918)"thanks, Bosungus

Thanks RobW, for the clarification Bosungus

Hi Tim B, I have never purchased anything from him . The Victory medal I mentioned is not on E-Bay but on his web site. I was just curious as I have a collection of WW1 US Victory medals and never saw the France Navy clasp listed as authorized and synderstreasures has what appears to be an authentic aviation clasp coupled with a France bar. however I now thoroughly understand that the France clasp is clearly not authentic. I was interested because I know the Navy had clasps for Russia & Siberia. Thanks for the info. Bosungus

Thanks for the information. I ask because i saw a WW1 US Navy Victory medal on Synderstreasures that had the Aviation & France bar yet I could not find any reference for the France authorization. http://snyderstreasures.com/pages/uswwivictorymedals.htm Would this be a later add on? Thanks, Bosungus

Question: Did the US Navy issue a France clasp for WW1 US Victory medal? I noticed an Aviation clasp along with a France clasp on a WW1US Victory medal and wonder if the France was an authorized clasp. Thanks

Thanks Tim B,dond & Gordon for taking the time to look these over. I appreciate your analysis and opinions and the opportunity to participate in the discussion. Bosungus

Thanks Tim, There is nothing under the hinge. The finish on the reverse is smooth and spotted. I have attached one more image in an attempt to show the detail. Thanks for all your imput, great discussion. Bosungus

Thanks dond, So where does that leave the badge? Good point, although I can't imagine someone making a U Boat badge out of sterling silver (.935), using what looks like a real Schott mark,going thru the trouble of the fine detail, crown,cross, wreath leaves etc., and as I presented in another post, the same badge in (.800) without the Schott mark. Seems like a lot of craftsmanship went into making this. Thank you for your viewpoint. BosunGus

Interesting and informative discussion. Thanks It may very well be that Schott did not manufacture U boat badges. As noted on Schott's mark followed by "fec" indicates he created the design. There were obviously other firms that manufactured them; Junker,Meybauer,etc the early ones possibly cast and no die struck and I would imagine silversmiths produced them as well as evidenced by the varying degree of detail, material and craftsmanship.

Image of back marked .800

Image of front of U Boat badgemarked .800

Thanks Tim, BosunGus is my user id and honors my surrogate grandfather "Gus" Ture Alfvegren; Bosun, His Royal Majesty's Merchant Marine, (UK) T.S.S. "Lake Michigan" torpedoed in the North Atlantic by U-Boat 100 under the command of KptLt Deganhart von Loe on 16 April,1918.

Thanks Tim, best I can do with the pics. I'm working with 75kb limitation unless I'm doing something wrong. Thanks for looking. Wanted to point out that there are other variations other than gilded bronze and Schot did make silver Schot badges. I also have another U boat badge marked .800 silver. thanks Bosun Gus

and another of the markings on the back. thanks BosunGus

Here is an image of the front.

I'd like to share another Schot U Boat badge in .935 silver Bosungus