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  1. hello, i am a brazilian collector and i need help. This ww1 iron cross is real or fake?
  2. Hi, Sorry, Typo in the title... I meant Wagner... I am not really big on EK2 variations... this liiks to be W&S ? I cannot remember having had one stamped like that before...
  3. This cross has a barely legible W? Could be a K or H.... any ideas? Thanks Chris
  4. Here is a cross to a man who was pulled into an Eisenbahn erstaz unit for a month or so at the end of 1916. Milit?rpass for Eisenbahntruppen... was done as "Pionier" then as "Ingenieur ??"
  5. After doing a search, I see that Wagner crosses get all the attention here over Sy-Wagner crosses. So, I thought I'd start a new thread... These scans are the first with my new Epson; so, I'm still experimenting to get the best scans. This one has a "7" on the reverse of the pin near the hinge. Google search yields little about the number other than it's a common quality control mark. That same Google search turned up a number "9" but not much else. Also, not much out there about the Sy-Wagner firm itself other than being in Berlin.
  6. any ideas on this type of core? the one feature of this 800-marked cross that i particularly like is the presence of score marks on the nuts so that the maker could accurately drill holes! never noticed them on any of my other double posts
  7. Hi, this came in a KO packet, but seems to be marked W(K?) or (?)M ... Any ideas?
  8. Hi, Wernitz cleared up a couple of the Mysteries that had been plaguing me for years and confirmed a theory or two that I had... but there are still some gaps I would like to fill.... including the following two.... When the German Army moved away from the fixed structure of the Armee Korps with "its" divisions, and divisions were instead transfered to the Armee Korps that needed them... there seems to be a change in the award process, at least for the EK2. In the early part of the war the awards seem to have been mostly made at Armee Korps level, then at about the time of the change, it seems to have been delegated to Divisional level. Maybe because of delays and it being difficult for a Corps to award medals to a division that had already moved on.... and for that reason the Divisional commanders took over the responsability? 2nd point... we know that after a couple of years in WW2 the order was given that a silver wound badge merited an EK2, for this reason Stellvertretender Commanders of a Wehrkreis could (almost) automatically award the EK2 to a soldier in a hospital in his Wehrkreis... In my groups I see a lot of soldiers wounded in the first couple of years of the war and invalided out... then awarded the EK in 1917... was this a precedent for the WW2 order, and was there an official order? I know, a needle in a haystack... but just on the off chance anyone knows......
  9. For the friends of the imperial iron-These are two different makers,both not really rare but "FR" is harder to get.I start with my 1st class "FR" Obverse
  10. Hi Gents I have a question about maker marks and there relation to jewelers. Were all the jewelers that have their names on cases, medal bars and other related items also the manufacturers of the Iron Cross or merely retailers? If the answer is yes and they were the makers, we collectors should be able to gather a database of names on the forum and try to solve the mystery behind the marks. I know a lot of you have EK2 medal bars with jeweler names on the reverse and likewise named cases. Do you think we can post all the different names on a thread for reference?
  11. Guys, Did not know where to post this so here he is. Shame that there is a bit of damage in his hair (woodworm). I guess he was in a frame at some point it is A4 size. Signed and dated but no name of the subject. Jock
  12. Several times I have told myself; YOU ARE NOT COLLECTING POSTCARDS ! But just a few more examples, to show how the IC was used on patriotic postcards. I may have to start collecting them? Kjell
  13. I have popsted this a few years ago, but found the photo againand it fascinates me... I have a few old EK2s missing the ring and loop.... but this is not a collection of rings that just happened to fall off..... someone removed them... and sold this on ebay.... - Was this the guy who seems to use EK2s to make frankenstein EK1 ? - Have these subsequently been bought to repair old EK2s, now resulting in EK2s from one maker with stamped rings from another... thereby giving us "variations" that we have never seen before?
  14. i thought these were fakes http://www.ebay.com/itm/GERMAN-IMPERIAL-IRON-CROSS-FIRST-CLASS-MAKER-MARKED-KAG-GERMANY-WWI-WW1-MEDAL-/131430906001?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=aU1sJXFqbRXWHKbEfYZShXYRxjU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc was i wrong?
  15. Hi Guys - I have recently come across and EK1 from the Brussilow Offensive. Specifically, it has the following engraving on the reverse... Bohuszowka Kol. Nowy Mozor am Stochod Juni 1916 It seems quite clear that this cross was partially earned for the fighting on and around the Stochod in June 1916 given the engraving. It also appears that Bohuszowka is a small town in the vicinity of Luck so this fits in as well. The confusing thing is the Nowy Mozor reference. From what I can see, this appears to be Polish - the words for New Cemetery. The Kol. likely stands for Kolonia and, perhaps, this is a reference to a small, regional cemetery in that it is even smaller than the smallest village. While I'll never know who owned/earned this Iron Cross, I wonder if it could have been a member of the Polish Legion fighting in the area. The Nowy Mozor makes me think that its a Polish reference that could be referred as something slightly different in Russian (or German). I asked a Polish friend about it and he said it's tough to determine given the area; the northwest part of the Ukraine, just below the Belorussian border, and not far from Poland. It's an area that varied over the centuries in terms of rule, and the influences of the various people in the region overlapped. It's quite possible that a Polish name/reference could be shared by others. So, does anyone have any thoughts? At this point, we can surely say its Brussilow related, and for the fighting in June when the Russians were taking heavy casualties from the Germans (and possibly Poles?) in the area.
  16. hi all, here's a spiffy cross...with multiple proof marks. inside of pin. it's a 2 that matches the 2 stamped on the left arm of the cross
  17. Guys, Not fancy. Cheap and cheerful, I even left it till last minute in case someone else wanted it. I couldn't leave it there unloved though, not at Bremen prices anyway!
  18. Guys, A couple of military men sporting their crosses.
  19. I picked up a small grouping and this was in it. I am fine with the cross. The case is orginal but seems to be the TR style so perhaps these were mated at some point. The engraving looks good to me. There is patina inside of it but it does not show very well in the pictures. I ran the name and the contents of the group by Rick L. and he said it sounded plausible. If anyone sees a red flag please let me know as I do have a short period to return this group if I need to. Thanks, Chet
  20. I think the name Alexander is used in many Languages... but How many German Füsiliers are named Alex Robinson?
  21. I've seen quite a few outer cardboard boxes for sale over the last few months and always find it a little suspect when something, which up until recently wasn't too easy to find in the condition they all appear to be in at the moment, comes on to the market. Or has someone just found a stash of boxes? Below is an example of a good one, I hope. Tony
  22. Some time ago I realised that i had a bunch of identified WW1 EK1s.... These were either in complete groups, or ebay sellers who were selling their relatives medals... I have started displaying them with enlarged Photos of the winner.... Fits nicely in a Binder.... This cavalry officer lost an Arm, served in a POW camp in WW2 and commited suicide after the war....
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