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  1. http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_08_2013/post-16073-0-87772100-1376928489.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_08_2013/post-16073-0-26073900-1376928506.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_08_2013/post-16073-0-30080200-1376928527.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_08_2013/post-16073-0-44805200-1376928542.jpgI posted once but under fakes and I will post again here because this is important to me as I do not want to waste more money. Would some who knows turkish medals please look at these and tell me if they think they are good or? Thank you for your time and knowledge ,Ray
  2. Thought I would share this chain.
  3. Couple of TWM documents... I have no clue about the text
  4. Hello, Bought this medal today and was wondering if anyone could tell me what it is? Kind regards Tom
  5. It is the 98th anniversary of Canakkale invasion. 24-25.4.1915 We had the Dawn Service last night. In 1934 Ataturk wrote a moving tribute to those heroes-ANZACs who shed their bloods and to their mothers. This is an important message from the President of the young Turkish Republic to his old enemies but new friends. There is nothing to add. LEST WE FORGET Demir
  6. Dear gentlemen, I got this very old CDV with a huge lot of Romanian photos and assume here we have an Ottoman nobleman. Whether I'm right or not, I don't know. There's absolutely no clue as CDV has no photo atelier mark, its reverse is blank. Judging from the type of paper I date it to late 1880s. Your valuable comments are highly appreciated.
  7. Greetings! Please excuse the intrusion and my ignorance. I am writing a biography of a fellow named Antoine Muzzarelli (1844 to 1908). I've come across a newspaper article (Daily Tribune, Salt Lake City, December 24, 1898) that indicates he was a member of the "Legion of Honor of the Turkish Order of Medjidie". The following year in Portland, Oregon, he apparently reported to police in that city that his medal had been stolen. This is a surprise to me as Muzzarelli's military career was short (1870 to about 1873 or 4). He was wounded at Colmiers, was imprisoned by the Communards and seems to have attained the rank of Captain. I don't have any evidence he fought in the Crimean War or that he did anything that, I would think, would attract the attention of this Order. I've consulted Google but there seems to be little inforamtion about this. Is there, anywhere, a list of recipients. If so, how might I access that list and would it include an explanation of why a recipient would have received that award? Thank you :-)
  8. In my book The Turkish War Medal I showed a War Medal Document which had 4 lines. After publishing the book, Hector (GMIC Member) has send me a TWM Document which had 3 lines. (In the pictures below the difference between 3 and 4 lines are shown in red)(Blues are "you" which is not found in the 3 line documents, instead there is a blank space) After that, I found out more of these 3 line documents and finally bought one (I only gave half of the price asked) which belongs to a Bulgarian Brigadier (Ottoman Turkish: Mirliva) Janko Draganoff. (Purple colour is used to fill out spaces in the 3 line document) In the 3 line document the paragraph ends without the word (Bundan) at the end of the 3rd line. Here I share with you the original document and the Ottoman Turkish, Turkish and English versions. An original translation of the document made by the diplomats at the Ottoman Legation in Sofia while presenting the Medal is also shared below. Please also notice that; in the 3 line document there is another blank space in the 3rd line which has to be filled out, this blank space was replaced by “YOU” in the 4 line document instead of writing a name or a title or a courtesy title,like in this document. Also note that the document was given on behalf of the Sultan by Enver Pahsa as mentioned in my correction thread : http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/53717-the-turkish-war-medal-a-book-review/page-2#entry541606 What is this 3 line document, is it original? Yes it is original and IMHO there are 2 options: These 3 line documents were the earlier samples when the Medal was still given sparingly and people had no worries about filling in the 3rd blank space in the 3rd line. Or these were given to the allies without the 4th line, because the 4th line advise the citizens how to behave after receiving this award “So that / from now on you will continue to carry out your duties within law in the best way possible and spend special efforts to receive praises and to reach higher levels.” (But this is Enver Pasha who thought he had the authority to give advice to everybody) If these 3 line documents were given to the allies who were not citizens, then how come lots of allies have 4 line documents? Then we may say that 3 line documents are the earlier types and Enver Pasha decided to add some advice to the citizens in the later 4 line version ? Best wishes Demir
  9. Just received the book "the Turkish War Medal" by Demir Erman and was rather impressed with his work. I collect Turkish war medals, but had been put off by the lack of reference material on the subject. The book is a solf covered one and rather inexpensive but the author has put his heart and soul into the effort. Quite a bit of background material on the turkish military establishment and the thought that went into establishing the medal. Good sections on the comparison of the turkish medal to the German and Austrian variations, the packaging of the medal, and the various award certificates. Definitely gives the beginner collector a basis to begin his colllection in an intelligent manner at a low investment price. Well recommended for the money.
  10. What do you think about these awards, one of them is Turkish but the other one I don't know. When where they made, are they genuine and what was their awards criteria? Also interested in any value information, not high dealer price but collector to collector price. So basically any in information would be greatly appreciated Thanks Bjorn
  11. Not a rare award but very nice hardware variant. Star device on the 'ribbon' is missing
  12. This is my first post in Turkey forum, with some of my Turkish war medal collections, please enjoy.
  13. http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/57865-medal-bar-with-twm-clasp/
  14. I've got this star today, but not sure it is original. Please your opinions about this item.
  15. I'm trying to figure out who's Tughra this is on a Silver Ewer that was awarded to an Ottoman Bureaucrat. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
  16. Gentlemen, This year is the 95th anniversary of the Gallipoli/Canakkale war. The Turkish War Medal - Canakkale Madalyasi - Eiserner Halbmond - Iron Crescent - Gallipoli Star was given in this war against the invading British and French Forces. TWM is the entry level gallantry award, ranking below the silver Liyakat Medal. Here are the pictures of my TWM collection. In the first picture you can see different makes of the TWM, miniatures and ribbons. Please also note that the pine cone and the rifle bullets on the left back side of the picture are from Lone Pine/Gallipoli where one of the most severe battles took place with the ANZACs. After the landing (1915, 25th of April) The German ribbon just behind the Turkish made medal ( in the front middle, behind it another Turkish made medal ) has blood stains on it (left corner). On the front far left is the one (with a wreath surrounding the star) I mentioned in my earlier threads. The second picture is my Turkish lead soldier collection. The third picture is the KNIGHTs of the middle ages. Hope you enjoy the collection, best wishes. Demir Erman
  17. Hi guys, I found one nice picture, taken in 1938. A Bulgarian NCO with long service, Balkan wars and WW1 veteran, along with the Bulgarian orders and the German one, also has a TWM on ribbon.
  18. Bonjour, Here is an interesting image depicting some Austro-Hungarian Officers serving in "Ottoman Service" (in this case the " " are justified...) with the Macedonian Reformgendarmerie : It is not my intent to discuss here the events that lead the "Powers" to force upon the Sublime Porte some measures to intervene in the affairs in 1903 - nor the outcome of same. I will limit my approach of the Mürzsteg reforms to the elements useful in analyzing this interesting photograph. One of the key points of these was the decision to reform / modernize the Macedonian Gendarmerie - with a view to ensure its impartiality to Macedonians. To gain the trust of the population, each of the powers sent some officers to supervize this. Austria-Hungary recommended that the head of the Macedonian gendarmerie should be Italian general Di Giorgis, which was eventually accepted by Sublime Porte. The Powers each sent their officers to a specific sector ("sandjak") : Austria-Hungary : Uskub Russia : Salonique Italy : Monastir (and caza of Castoria) France : Serres England : Drama Germany : only sent one Delegate, employed in the Salonique Gendarmerie School. The Uniforms : Although the Tsar had originally requested that the Russian Officers wear Russian uniforms, the officers of the reformed Gendarmerie would eventually wear the Ottoman uniform of the corps, light blue with red facings and black braiding, as seen here. A note addressed by the Sublime Porte to the Ambassadors of Russia and Austria-Hungary on 17 March 1904 precised : "(...) With respect to the gendarmerie uniform, the model has already been adopted, in agreement with Degiorgis Pacha. (...) The contracts signed between the Officers and the Ottoman government specified : "ART. 5. M..... will wear the special uniform, that will be the one of the whole reformed gendarmerie and will be submitted to the orders of H.I.M. the Sultan, Supreme Commander of the whole Imperial Ottoman Army." Same contract mentionned in ART.2 that a sum of 1,500 Francs was allocated to each officer "pour frais de premier habillement, equipment, harnachement et achat du cheval". Uniforms being provided by the officers on this amount, one can imagine that they were privately tailored. That would explain the differences we can see here : number of rows of braiding vary from 7 to 9, and the shade of the cloth used seem to vary (Januszewsky's, bottom row second from left, being obviously much lighter in shade). However, one point would raise a specific debate : the headdress. The official headdress of the gendarmes was to be the Fez. This headdress however was very much considered "Ottoman/muslim" - and it was reported as being a sign that would generate distrust for the Macedonian population in the context. Out of this heated debate, the outcome was the following : - The officers delegated by England and Italy used the fez - The officers from Austria, Russia and France adopted insted the fur Kalpak, as worn in the Ottoman mounted troops. Of black fur, its top was of facing colour (red).
  19. Hi Gentlemen! I Don't know exactly what is it. The star and the crescent seems Turkish however the cypher has Latin characters. Maybe a shako part or a bearskin plate? Please help!
  20. I would like to add another company dealing with strawberry seed, snail and Easter-egg design TWM (source: Konstantin). Factory Petz & Lorenz, Unterreichenbach Wurttemberg . (Producer and&or seller ?) Please compare the toughra with Steinhauer and Lück, and Ernst Schneider, Ludenscheid. The toughra has a fuller body and the fringes are curved more towards the pseudonym and tughs are shorter and ball tipped finials are smaller. Regards Demir
  21. Here is the Turkish made War Medal and its package together for you to compare. Although I showed the package in my book in pages 84 and 85, I noticed that I did not show them together. This package is the quadrilateral one which has the dimensions : width top: 74 mm width bottom 55 mm height lid folded 68 mm height lid open 95 mm Enjoy Demir
  22. Rank insignia were applied over branch color collar tabs since 1920 in the Turkish Army. The colours are still in effect with minor changes. The picture is taken from: http://www.turkeyswar.com/army/ranksuniforms.htm Branches - Collar Tab Color - Textile (From the table made by Col. Türker Geçer) Briagadier to Field Marshal - Brick/tile red - Broad cloth General Staff Officers - Light Purple Brown/Light cherry color - Broad cloth Infantry and machine Gun- very dark green- Broad cloth Cavalry and Cavalry Machine Gun- Silver (Ash Color) -Broad cloth All branches of Artillery and Artillery Observers: Dark Navy Blue- Broad cloth Engineers - Blue- Broad cloth Pilots- cerulean (light blue)- Broad cloth Transportation and Cars- purple- Broad cloth Quartermaster and Mechanical Engineers - Light Purple- Broad cloth Map makers-Cartographers- Green- Broad cloth Ammunition and War Equipment Production- Slate-colored, dark gray (black)- Broad cloth Gendarmerie- Light Navy Blue surrounded by Red-Broad cloth Medical Doctors- Dark Purple Brown/Dark cherry color- Velvet Veterinary- Black- Velvet Pharmacists- sprout color (light gren)- Velvet Musicians- Violet- Velvet
  23. Hello, I Uploaded a file into Document Archive of GMIC about the TURKISH OFFICER and NCO Ranks and corresponding NATO Codes . Also Ottoman, English and German ranks were written for every rank. Ottoman ranks are in brackets. http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/files/file/41-turkish-officer-and-nco-ranks-and-corresponding-nato-codes/ Regards Demir Edited by Demir ERMAN
  24. I am uploading 2 page review of the NCO Rank Insignias WRITTEN by: Air Sergeant Major Salim DİKDURAN and EDITED by: Demir ERMAN into GMIC DOCUMENT ARCHIVE http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/files/ . While I am translating the Turkish ranks into English I used NATO ranks for Turkish and USA Military. I also uploaded this NATO Codes for Turkey and USA in order to help you to compare them using "OR" NATO codes. Here is the picture of the first page. Enjoy Demir Please feel free to correct me when you find the translation of ranks into English is wrong.
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