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  1. Just picked this up from a well known dealer here in the US. Thought I'd share. It's a Turkish Cavalry sword. Has a nice German made quill back blade, guard with crescent and star cut out and grip made of I can't figure out what (wood, gutta, horn ...) Has some markings on the blade (crescent on spine and see below for the rest). Couple of questions: 1. Anybody know for sure what the grip is made of? 2. What "model" is this? 3. Did all Turkish Cavalry carry it? 4. What do the inscriptions say (see below)? 5. Anybody have a scabbard? Art
  2. Gentlemen, what do you think about this nice order? Original one or not? I have only these pictures now thank you
  3. Hello members! I have these pictures of Turkish princes whose awards I am trying to identify, and would appreciate help in completing the task. Prince Osman Fuad I can work out the following awards - Nishan-i-Osmanieh 1st class (or murassa?) Nishan-i-Majidieh 1st class (or murassa?)Military Medal of Distinction (Imtiyaz Madalyasi) Medal of Merit (Liaqat Madalyasi) Turkish War Medal GC of the Order of the Dannebrog of Denmark GC of the Order of the North Star of Sweden GC of the Order of the Leopold of Austria with war band Order of the Red Eagle 1st class of Prussia with crossed swords Knt of the Order of the Iron Cross 2nd class of Prussia Is anyone able to identify any of the others? With sincere thanks James Hoard
  4. Hi, Today while skipping the pages of a catalogue (Anıtkabir Atatürk Müzesi [Mausoleum Museum of Atatürk]) I came across an interesting info about Atatürk's War Medal (Harb Madalyası). See the excerpt below. Enjoy! "On the back side "Sr.Exc.M.K.P." (Mustafa Kemal Pascha) and "J.H. Werner Berln" is written in German. This medal was given to Atatürk by Emperor Mehmed Vahdettin VI on 11 May 1918."
  5. i found this medal buried in my garden, just wondered if anyone could tell anything about it especially the letter 'E' on the back. Thanks.http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2012/post-13701-0-86167600-1334428755.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2012/post-13701-0-70557300-1334428765.jpg
  6. I have been looking to acquire a 4th class Order of Medjidie of Ottoman manufacture from the 1870s for some time now but I haven't come across any where the seller has given an indication of the period of manufacture, other than Crimean. This suggests that it's very difficult to tell. Can anyone give some pointers as to what I would expect to see on the Order that I am looking for (conversely, what I shouldn't expect to see !). Just as an example, I've attached photos of one that Liverpool medals have for sale now. To me, it looks like a 4th class of Ottoman make but has a feel about it that suggests more modern manufacture, 1900s perhaps. Any advice/comment gratefully received. Best wishes David
  7. My friend bought this medal, but I have some doubts about it. I'm not an expert on Turkish awards and quality of medal looks strange for me. Will be appreciate for any opinions about.
  8. Hello, Here are the samples of JHWerner TWMs with the date 333 on them instead of 1333. Regards demir
  9. Hello, I would like to have your opinion on this order ottoman,for sale on ebay. Thanks http://www.ebay.ca/itm/RARE-TURKISH-ORDER-OSMANIE-MURASSA-MECIDI-OTTOMAN-RRR-/150560874821?_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D1%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6068780225591985048
  10. Gentleman, merry chrismas everyone. I'd like to hear your opinions on this piece. The sabregrips on the backside doesn't look good to me. What do you think. http://www.ebay.de/i...=item3a6e587251 All the best S.
  11. Dear all, I find today this pair of embroidered jacket cuffs. I thing that they are part of an ottoman diplomatic uniform or civil service, I don't know. Can anyone help me? Regards, Artan
  12. Hi, I recently added this picture to my collection and asked Mr. Saral's help to identify it. He said it is most probably Major Lierau, Heavy Artillery Group Commander in Anafartalar, Gallipoli, later Lieutenant Colonel, Artillery Commander in Palestine. He said Major Lierau wears the Otoman Artillery Officers' uniform and his collar insignia is exploding cannonball which means heavy artillery used in the forts. He also wears the Turkish War medal. I think he was also wearing the Turkish Liyakat Medal with crossed scimitars on his left breast. My problem is: if he was Heavy Artillery Group Commander in Anafartalar, Gallipoli and later Lieutenant Colonel, Artillery Commander in Palestine, that means he had been fighting actively in the battle field. So how come he was also wearing white ribbon with red or black on the sides ribbon on the second buttonhole of his tunic. Then there are two options: 1. This is not a ribbon belonging to either TWM or Iron Cross II, 2. He is not Major Lierau but somebody else (and who is he?) but even then whoever he is, since he has heavy artillery officer insignia and wears TWM how come he has white ribbon (if it is not something else)? What would you suggest? Demir
  13. Okay - I have 2 issues I'd like some help with: 1.) I know it's hard to even find a picture of a 1st Cl Osmonie Order..but, I think I might have one either that or I'm just an idiot. Need direction here. 2.) I also have a few other medals each of which has a Berat. The berats act as the documentation for these awards. Unfortunately, I can't read anything on these (it's not even Turkish, it's something called Davida). If someone could help me by identifying which of the 4 attached berats is meant for this specific Osmonie Order I'd be greatful. I have 3 Order of Osmanie medals in my possession, one of which stands apart from the rest (see picture/album) Notice in the group shots that one has significantly more gold. This is confirmed in the following photos (many photos are attached for further reference): Although nearly the same size the gold Osmonie weighs 61 grams and the silver medal weighed only 53 grams. With each medal facing forward one can see the difference in the 3 rays that fall in between each of the star points. They are bigger and are made of some sort of precious stone or gemstone (need to check with jeweler). The scene depicted on the obverse of each of the Osmonie orders are the 2 drums, although on the gold Osmonie the drums have a different pattern and a higher level of detail is evident in the artwork for that matter. The clasp mechanism attaching the crescent star to the medal is more secure on the gold version as well. The only explanation I can think of for all of these differences is either that the gold Osmonie is the result of a tacky private sale in Italy, or it's of a different class. I should have mentioned also that these aren't counterfeit. The recipient was the Directeur de la Dette Publique Ottomans in the early 1900's (more specifically about 1901).... I have a number of documents (like the berats that I can't translate; family trees with signed affidavits, even insurance coverage documentation for taking the medals accross the Atlantic and many others. So: Informed readers of this forum: please tell me if I'm crazy or not.
  14. Hey guys, please have a look : http://gmic.co.uk/index.php/topic/50110-unknown-islamic-order/
  15. A recent pick-up from the nice gents at Chelsea Military Antiques. If you are ever in London, their store is well worth a visit. They are located on a side street just off Pall Mall on the western side of Trafalgar Square. Gavin
  16. Dear Turkey-Experts, I have a silver imtiyaz-medal with name-engraving in the backside-cartouche. Is anybody able to read/translate the name written there? regards and thanks in advance Josef
  17. I recently bought an exceptionally clear period copy of the well-known image of Ottoman shock troops being inspected on the Palestine front. I was surprised to see that the sleeve badge--rendered in red and white in artists' reconstructions--actually has tassels attached to the bottom edge. They appear to be different colors for different soldiers. All the soldiers in the photo have these tassels. Are they indications of rank?
  18. What medal is this? Period? value?
  19. Hello, While I was visiting the Turkish War veterans association, I was introduced to two Korean War veterans. Mr. Osman Yasar Eken - Ret. NCO. and Mr. Yusuf Gunaydın - Ret. NCO Mr. Eken was with the Turkish 3rd Infantry Company of the 5th Turkish Brigade on May 28,1953, at Wegas when the assault started. After 26 hours of fiarce battle Turkish Company lost 147 men. (More info: http://www.korean-war.com/turkey.html ) Now he is incharge of the Social affairs Section at the Assc. Here are his pictures: When he was in Korea and now.
  20. I've just received a copy of 'Ottoman Medals and Orders' by Erureten and Tarihi - a monumental book of over 380 pages of colour photographs. Interestingly, the book includes an illustration of each Sultan's unique tugra or signature. A question I have is: Does the tugra in the centre medallion of the Order of Medjidie reflect the particular Sultan of the time in which the Order was awarded? I have examined a 2nd Class, 3rd Class, 4th Class and 5th Class Order of Medjidie and to my untrained eye, all of the tugras appear the same. In fact, they appear to be that of Sultan Abdulaziz (reigned 1861 - 1876). This includes the 5th Class which does not have an Ottoman mint mark on the reverse which might suggest a Crimean era issue under Sultan Abdulmecid (1839 - 1861). Gavin 2nd Class and 3rd Class below:
  21. Along with the WWI victory medals I also picked up a couple of Turkish stars. All 3 by BB&co.
  22. Please, help with reading the writing on this buckle.
  23. It's been a little quiet here so thought I'd post my Orders of Medjidie. 1) 4th (?) Class - recently purchased from Barbara Radman. It has a gold centre medallion but no rosette on the ribbon. It has a Turkish mint mark on the reverse. 2) 5th Class Crimean period - purchased from Michael at Rarusnet. I'd earlier posted pics of the Crimean Medjidie but this photo shows it after it's been carefully cleaned with a silver polishing cloth. It was sad to remove 150 years of patina (and history) but the medal has now been "restored" to as close a condition as when it first left the Istanbul mint. But I can understand how many collectors would prefer preserving the original patina of a medal. Gavin
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