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  1. This is my first post here on this forum. I would like to request identification regarding this 1st Class Spange from an 'unknown' maker. I have seen this type badge on other forums with both the tapered pin, as mine, and also the pin assembly like on a textbook Deumer. Please feel free to express your opinions on this badge, as to it being an original pre-1945 or not... Thank you, Robert
  2. " Like the Excalibur sword waiting for its king,this cross of merit will never see the worthy knight again. But it will stand as a testament of his courage."__________Robert
  3. Chris has asked me to make a thread with all of my spanges, so this will be one long thread. I would appreciate it if everyone would wait until I have them all posted before making comments. The main purpose is to make a reference library. Jim
  4. This variant of the Wiederholungsspange is not commonly found on German ribbon bars. I think the piece was designed by Junker. It is a very distinctive eagle, and does not share the usual shape "standard range" of 1939 clasps, making this one of the rarer devices to find. This example is not in the Rick Research articles, and is one of the devices I wanted to share with him.
  5. Please wait until I get all of them posted before making comments. Thanks, Jim First model follow:
  6. Well guys ... I received this one in the mail today from a very good friend who has recently left our hobby. Absolutely gorgeous specimen. I want to show it off and offer him my thanks again :food-smiley-004:
  7. Hello, I?m hoping some of you can help me out here. I can?t tell the difference between a good cross (1st or 2nd class) and a Floch. What should I or anyone else who can?t spot them look out for? What are the characteristics of a Floch? I only own 1 WWII EKI which is pictured below, most people have told me it?s original and I hope that is true because it wasn?t cheap (depending on which part of the world you live). Tony
  8. Story: A number of men where landed from U-boats to spy for the Nazi?s warmachine in WWII. One of them was named Ib Riis and was Icelandic / Danish. He was contacted by the Abwehr in Dannmark and forced to work for them. He was a ships captain and radioman before the war. He was unhappy with this arrangement and promised to give himself up to the British in Iceland, first thing he would arrive. He was sent on U-252 to Norway and then on to Iceland. He landed in the remote peninsula of Langanes, 6 April, 1942. He burried his gun and radio, in seperate holes and started a long hike in bad weather, finally 17 hours later making to a local farm for shelter. He was interogated by the British in Reykjavik and then flown back to the landing site to find the raido, but he did not tell them about the gun. Mr. Riis was given the cover of a Royal Navy officer and spent the next 3 years sending fake massages to his German handlers. He was involved in historically important events like the destruction of the PQ-17 convoy and battleship Sharnhorst. It seams the Germans never suspected him being a double agent. Ironically, for his "service" to the Germans, he was awarded the Iron Cross 2nd and 1st Class. 3 monrhs ago I was sucessful in contacting Mr. Riis, aged 91! After some correspondance and phonecalls, he has aggred to donate his Iron Crosses to my museum project! The reason the crosses survived the war, was because they were sent to his parents in Dennmark, along with his pay which keept his parents alive throughout the war. Once I have the crosses in hand, I will post photos of them. To the best of my knowladge, Ib Riis is the only Icelander in history to be officially awarded both the Iron Cross 1. and 2. class. A truely remarkable find for my collection. Next summer I am taking a map which Mr. Riis has marked in the location of his burried gun, and I will attempt to find it, using a metal detector and GPS. He says he burried in in the leather holster wrapped in an oil cloth and shirt. Regards Hinrik
  9. Guys, Local flea market yesterday. Shame really!
  10. Hi all, I have started doing some research on a collection that has been sitting in an attic space for a number of years. Included is this EK I screwback with no makers mark and a non-magnetic core. Looks like a one piece construction (compared to a three piece EK II that is also in the collection). What do you think? Good chance it is genuine or is it a total dud?
  11. There are the big parades... and the small ones.... Lets see yours....
  12. Guys - I'm also trying to put together a few short stories on battles and campaigns in which the Iron Cross was won. It's a slow process but I hope to add to it soon. See this page on Stalingrad recipients... http://kleinekillpress.com/stalingrad.html
  13. Presently is there any way to identify an 1939 Iron Cross made by the Gablonze method? If there isn't I propose that an Iron Cross that is in it's original state of issue that has evidence of burnishing was made by the standard method of stamping out the frame using sheet metal. The absense of burnishing is from using the Gablonze method which at least in Bowen's book "The Prussian and German Iron Cross" suggest the the high sheen that resulted made it un-necessary to burnish. I have two EK2's and 2 Ek1, both appear to have not been burnish, but may have been polished afterwards by somebody after issue. The Ek1's one "26" B.H. Mayer, and a "L/56" Funcke and Bruninghaus The later has burnishing marks but the former does not suggesting perhaps that Meyer who did produce many EK's may have used the Gablonzes method whereas the Funcke and Brunninghaus was a small contractor and did not have access to the technology. I know looking a 4 EK's does not confirm the theory, it would take looking at many different makers and many samples of those makers to make a determination, but it could be a interesting project. For those who are not familiar as to what to look for, look at the picture below.
  14. Nothing special, but this cross is pretty nice, maker mark "11"
  15. Gentlemen, would you please speak out your opinion on this beautiful RK.As my self I have no problems with it. But, one of the eastern comrades kind of doubts its originality, especially the black lacquer, saying it has been restored and the black lacquer is not original. ? Greatly appreciated in advance.
  16. Among the most interesting Iron Cross award documents are those that include written explanations for the recipient’s actions that won him the award, or Begründung (grounds). The written details could be recorded on a separate piece of paper but were often typed, or handwritten, on the document’s reverse. These citations offer a clear understanding of the deeds associated with the award of an Iron Cross, above and beyond the standard combination of studying the combination of unit and award date. The process was not very common but seems to have been done by a wide variety of Heer and Waffen-SS units throughout the war. This example includes a brief, but interesting explanation for the recipient’s Iron Cross. It was awarded to Gefreiter Josef Gilek, a radioman and observer (Vorgeschobener Beobachter), and member of Artillerie-Regiment 188 for fighting against the Soviet airborne operation west of the Dnieper River on September 25, 1943. As a Vorgeschobener Beobachter, Gilek was employed with the responsibility of observing and reporting the impact of his unit’s artillery salvos. Given the surprise airborne operation conducted by the Soviets, it is likely that Gilek was engaged in close quarters fighting; a shift from his everyday duties since enemy soldiers had landed among troops deployed behind the Dnieper River. The details on the reverse specifically speak to the fact that the recipient was effective against Soviet paratroops. Gefreiter Gilek did not only prove himself to be a courageous soldier as a V.B., but above all on 25.9.43 showed special worthiness during the successful defense against enemy paratroopers. In this case, the award was made by 57. Infanterie-Division even though Artillerie-Regiment 188 was actually organic to 88. Infanterie-Division. The lending of units to different divisions was quite common throughout the war, and it was probably quite common at this point given the race to the Dnieper and beyond. Another interesting aspect of this citation are the various dates. The actions for which he won the award, the date it was processed on division level and then the date it was processed/completed by his Bataillon (this is when the details were added) are all included. These three dates shed some light on the award process of the Iron Cross in this case. If you like this, please check out my "Begründung" webpage... http://kleinekillpress.com/iron-cross-winners---begruumlndung.html I have just updated it with a few new examples and will be adding more soon (and hope to, someday, improve on the website and make it more robust and presentable). There are also seven examples in my book (one of which is the ant-parachutist one shown above)... http://kleinekillpress.com/premiere-book-release.html Please enjoy and let me know what you think!
  17. I found this medal in aknights cross box as the GI found it.I bought it from a 101st Airborne vet they found it in a SS officers house while clearing it.I was told only 500 were made and dropped on the Eastern front.Does anyone know anything about it? Or value?
  18. I'll try this again................ OK, I went to a Estate Sale and found a old wooden tool box in the Garage and once I pulled it down, I opened and found a bunch of old smoking pipes and a tobacco bag with 3 Iron Crosses and one being a 1870 in outstanding condition! 2 others were Iron Crosses 2nd class?? (I THOUGHT) once I stuffed them back under the pipes and I paid for the box $15.00 I went home to glow on my new buy! Then when I was done looking at the 1870 I was looking the 2nd classes, when I was re-looking at one of them I didn't know what the heck it was, it had writing on the back with a 1813 date: "Fur" at the top of the rear and "Raub und Mord" in the middle?? The front was weird but couldn't figure what looked wrong til I searched on the Internet and then noticed it was dated 1941??? So I found that Gordon Williamson has in one of his books information on these but I don't have the book So I e-mailed him yesterday to ask what he knows about them and he sent me information and a photo of two in an article, and he said they are real? I have found no other photos of one besides the article he sent and those shots are not so good. Now this cross I have is made with a split frame brass core I think? and 3 pieses all together, not counting the silver ring. I haven't weighted it, or done measuments yet but will. I know what your going to ask and please post photos but I'm going wait til I get better information, because I can already read the responces. (no good and so on)?? If anyone has information or? please post so I can learn more on this item. I have read that about 500 of these propaganda crosses were made? but have no idea where that Number came from???? On the reverse is the year "1813" and the inscription "Fur Raub und Mord" ("For Robbery and Murder"). any help would be great, here is a photo of what Gordon sent me so far, PLEASE TRANSLATE TO ENGLISH..... but after closer examination of mine has a base medal center of some type, not brass as I thought. I had to wash it due to the tobacco stuck to it, and there is bubbling under some corners and slight rust in some too. also once I get more information on this I will post photos, also on the 1870,, I moved it later in the day to a local friend who collects IC's and owns a few hundred of all types, BUT if you want I will go back over and get photos of it if you want me too? (not today) but nothing wrong with it. I have also read that these were made in 3 pieces, so? thanks and more to come. greg koepp Thanks greg koepp
  19. Greetings, I am not a 3.R Iron Cross expert by any means but this cross looks a bit "off". The greenish patina on the core by the frame seems almost faked. There are some other peculiarities but I would like to ask the experts here for their take on this piece. Thank you kindly. As a footnote, the current owner of this cross told me he bought it from Snyder's Treasures several years ago. That fact alone gave me pause.
  20. Hi Guys - If you haven't seen it yet, check out the EK documents article in the latest issue if International Militaria Collector. In addition to this specific article, the magazine is worth the price given that each issue usually has at least one Iron Cross related write-up. http://bdpublish.com/
  21. While studying engraved crosses from the First World War can be a challenge - and is often a matter of "comfort" - engraved crosses from World War II can be far more of a mystery. There seem to be very few "real" engraved crosses from the WWII era relative to the amount engraved and personalized by recipients and jewelers during and immediately after World War I. I have four attributed EK1s from the Third Reich era but only one is engraved - this one below to a Karl Heinz Gröpper. It is a nice, unmarked vaulted cross made by Klein & Quenzer and includes the date of September 13, 1942 and reference to a place called Bili Bor. I have no definitive information about the specifics of this cross but by best guess is that it is a reference to fighting Partisans in the Bor region of Serbia. It appears that 704. ID was the unit in the area at the time but there is no specific evidence, that I am aware of, that there were actions in this area on or shortly before this date. It is also possible that the engraving is actually in reference to Biely Bor in Belarus, but that remains a mystery as well. If it is, then this scenario is also related to fighting Partisans as the frontline of Army Group Center was much farther east at the time. Nevertheless, this is a neat cross. And the odd location name on the back adds to me comfort level that it is a period inscription as most fake engravings include famous battles, units or recipients.
  22. Hí Guys I want to show these crosses The "über" a no cut type and the little brothers is different core paint type I hope like it to you
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