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  1. I had to share this before the item even arrived... one of the "grails" of Hungarian security. It's a Kadar period Excellent State Security Police (Karhatalom) Service Badge along with the miniature in case. Very rare. The Rakosi period version of the badge is more rare, but I'm certainly happy to have found this. The period of this badge would be post 1957 until 1971, when the Karhatalom was disbanded.
  2. In the efforts to make headway on our own research I would like to begin this thread to complie a database of the Hungarian Partisan Badges. There were several types and some variations. It would be great if everyone could post an image of the badges (front and back) or at least 1) if you have a badge 2) does it have a number. Designations: Type 1.1: Probably Soviet manufactured, silver, thin base, screwback style, commonly unnumbered Type 1.2: Hungarian manufactured, silver, thicker base, pinback, commonly unnumbered Type 1.3: Probably Soviet manufactured, zink, thicker base, pinback or screwback, commonly unnumbered Type 2.1: Hungarian manufacture, guilded bronze, pinback, numbered Type 2.2: Hungarian manufacture, guilded bronze, pinback, unnumbered (1980's type) Type 1.1 2 unnumbered Type 1.2 1 unnumbered Type 1.3 1 unnumbered 1 with hand scratched number 901 1 with hand scratched number 446 Type 2.1 #1 #9 #56 #84 (documented Dr Janos Beck) #444 (document - no badge) #490 (miniature only) #558 #724 #804 (on eBay 12/2/12) #824 #826 #1019 #1057 #1069 #1089 #1094 #1149 #1249 (documented Dr Janos Beckne) #1622 #1735 #1860 #2142 (Document - no badge) #2228 #2448 (document - no badge) #2767 (document - no badge) #2809 (mini) #2888 (mini) #3100 (document - no badge) #3159 #3473 #3649 #3662 (on eBay 9/25/12) #3695 #3711 (Collect Russia Web Site, 12/30/08) #4062 #4148 #4194 #4302 #4352 #4428 #4567 #4668 #4876 #4936 #5070 #5074 #5076 #5240 (Documented to Joszef Nagy) #5312 #5367 #5524 #5765 #6043 #6064 #6066 #6301 #6367 Type 2.2 2 (unnumbered)
  3. For some reason, I thought we had a thread for Hungarian PR awards. Apparently, we do not (or at least I could not find it). OK, we have one now. Please post away!
  4. Just in. And I am very happy (in part because just 174 were awarded). But -- as Charles has told me-- this one is even more interesting. And I'd rather he explain what he has learned. Over to you Charles . . . . But, first, the eye-candy:
  5. Hi all, does anyone have any info on this order and its attached medals? Pics would be nice also.
  6. Here's the latest 3 Hungarian Awards that I bought: They are Medal for Service to the Country 1st through 3rd class. 1st Class - Gold 2nd Class - Silver 3rd Class - Bronze These are the early types with the ribbon in the middle sewn in and riveted.
  7. I promised Dan, in another thread, that I would post pictures of these badges in my collection. After thinking about it for a while, I decided that these badges deserve a thread of their own that can be used for our reference purposes. If we can post pictures of all 51 here tht would great so please post wht you have. I would prefer not to duplicate badges unless the one that you have is different than one already posted in some significant way. All of these badges, when identified in contemporary Hungarian literature or reference books are refered to as "Kivalo" awards. I've titled the thread "Distinction" because that was the translation used in my reference book. I'll start with the Snipers badge. Regards, Gordon
  8. This is a relatively scarce Hungarian medal too: - - - -
  9. . This was (and basically is) the Hungarian Lifesaving Medal. It was instituted in 1965, and re-instituted in 1990, but with the new coat of arms of Hungary. .
  10. I couldn't find a thread for these already, so i'm starting a new one. I personally think the Hungaria stuff is really overlooked. But then, so is alot of the axis nation stuff, it all seems to hide in the shadow of the TR. Which is just fine for me! These three medals are for the capture of south and eastern slovakia, transylvania and parts of yugoslavia. There's also a pic of the paratroop jacket they are with. Sam.
  11. This badge came from a nice estate of an officer who served in WW1 in the AH army and in WW2 in the Hungarian army (end rank Colonel). In the estate are also items of his stepson who graduated from the Ludovika Academy in 1937. I do not know this badge so I cannot establish whose it was. The badge was made by Morszanyi in Budapest, also well known for the WW1 Kappenabzeichen. Who can help? Best regards, Erik
  12. As Gordon has found an interest in the factory gurads recently (though I cant find the thread for it!) I managed to find (what I beleive to be) a pair of uniforms to the same indivdiual. This is a late 1970's manufacture M65 style tunic. What is interesting is that the shoulder boards appear to be almost 'Postal' in color - a deep pink color - but they are not exactly the same as the postal shoulder boards. The stars on the bards are reminiscint of the postal/rail type. The tunic is a gray, though not police gray, almost fire department gray. Buttons are Interior Ministry buttons. The interesting factor is the cog wheel with crossed rifle and hammer collar devices. The ribbon bar is also interesting as it has: Serivce to the Fatehrland in Silver, 25 year, 20 year, 15 year and 10 year military serivce, 10 year defense medal, 15 years police service (silver class), 5 year police serivice (bronze class) Also there is waer above the ribbon bar where it looks like a medal bar was attached for parade use at several times. The Factory Gurads were (according to information gathered from several sources) individuals who were in a small para-military organization charged with gurading vital armament factories essential for a possible 'war economy'. I have found several cap badges and caps - but never the uniform - till today.
  13. Going to start a thread about Hungarin WW2 tunics. Several factors need to be noted. 1) Hungary was a "poor nation" and subsequently had a very small garment industry that was not able to cope with the huge demand of unifomrs required when the military was mobilized. As a result one can find a huge variety of uniforms manufactured in various ways. It was not uncommon for a soldeir to be required to manufacture his own uniform (IE - go to the tailor and get one made) This included some combat grade uniforms. Most uniforms that survive today are dress uniforms for officers as they were only brought out on rare ocasions and worn for the parades and such. However as the war progressed the demand for uniforms increased and the availability of combat uniforms decreaesed and many offciers and NCO's were sent to the front in modified (mostly by the soldier himself) dress uniforms. 2) The government of course did manufacture under licence combat grade uniforms. This consisted of a heavy wool dark brown material similar to design of the dress uniform and they are usualy stamped with manufacture marks (which thankfuly include the year of manufacture) Though this was a combat uniform and was normaly worn without any imbellishment save for rank - it is very common to find examples that have been modified to hang badges and medals on for parade use. For the summer grade uniform there are examples made of a light blue (almost faded denim shade of hue) HBT material. Again the cut is similar to the dress uniforms and again soldiers would convert these for use to wear during parade (but less often as the blue shade was not the traditional brown) 3) as stated before one can even find the combat grade uniforms that were custom made by soldeirs! Below is a recent pinacle of my collection, a Lt. Col Csendor uniform. This one was originaly a stand up collar (originaly tailored in Debrecen before 1938) and as per the 1939 regulation was converted to a laying down collar. The Csendor (Genarmerie) unfiroms are also supposed ot be a green shade (rather than the brown of the regular army) but it is not uncommon to find some very rare Csendor uniforms made from the regular army brown stock. Csendor uniforms are rare - probably one step down from Arrow Cross as they were the equivalent to the Algimenie SS (spelling?) They were used to keep the peace and quiet within the borders of Hungary and as Hungary joined in operation Barbarosa they were sent to keep the peace there as well and as a result engaged in fighting partisans - for which this Lt.Col was doing alongside German troops. He was awarded the EK2 and the EK1 for his 'acts'.
  14. During WW2 the Royal Hungarian Air Force was relatively small compared to many of her Axis nations. I don?t have the exact numbers, but it was marginal at best. The Royal Hungarian Air Force flew mainly outdated or dismally performing aircraft from Germany and Italy for the majority of the war only to receive ME-109's, FW-190's and a handful of JU-88's during the latter stages of the war. For what they were given they performed rather admirably in the face of the Red Army's onslaught. As air power was still relatively new by WW2 the Hungarian Air Force like many other nations created a new image for its members of the Air Force. The idea was to create a uniform that gave the image of the new knights of the sky. Invariably like many nations Hungary also adopted the open collar four pocket uniform with a neck tie motif - and like Germany and other nations equipped these new knights with a striking dagger or sword. Compared to the Luftwaffe, the Royal Hungarian Air Force did produce the dress daggers (the idea of the sword was not used in Hungary) in great quantities as the officers and NCOs who would actually need one or wear one was rather miniscule. The dagger was regulated to strictly dress and parade use, not a necessary item for the majority of the war, unless you were getting commissioned, receiving an award or getting married. I would even suspect that the daggers were utilized like the Hungarian Defense Forces do today for the dress sabers - you go down to the Quartermaster sign off for the swords (which includes your liability of having to pay for them should you not return them) and after the event return the sabers. (I don?t have any documentation that this was a practice - but Hungary during WW2 had few resources so corners were cut ant every angle - so in my humble opinion this is plausible) My point with all of this is that the daggers are extremely rare, yet desirable to many. There were two forms of dress daggers. The officers dagger was finished in brass with a chromed blade while the NCOs dagger (which are infinitely more rare than the officers) had a chrome plated body with a brass finished eagle to create a stark contrast. Here is my rather worn, but still a good example as one would hope to find officers dress dagger.
  15. Usually I collect German Soldbücher & Wehpässe but a couple of weeks ago I saw this Hungarian example and liked the photo in it (and it was cheap) so thought that I would go off on a tangent with regards to the collection and buy it. It is dated for 1944 and while I have no knowledge of the language I don't think it mentions any units that he was assigned to. I think it just contains personnel information but I could be wrong - and if I am I would be grateful for any information. These are the only pages with entries.
  16. Szocialista Munka Höse cím Arany Csillaga Instituted 1953. [Picture credit: Ed Haynes]
  17. Hello gentlemen! I m glad that I find this forum - very nice place! I read all topics at first . And I want to show you some items from my collection wich I don't look here. Sorry for my English. <img src="http://gmic.co.uk/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="sad.gif" /> So, Order of Merit of the Hungarian People's Respublic 4 cl.
  18. This is one of my all-time favorites and from the first time I saw a photo of one I knew that I had to have it. Managed to get three of these back in the 1990s but since then have not been able to find any more, Bryan
  19. Hello, Recently found this Hungarian overcoat for a major and was wondering of which branch it is? I know the regular colors but not this double coloured "paroli". Based on WW1 I thought it might be General Staff? Regards, Erik
  20. Gentlemen, Would someone be good enough to provide the measurements of the following, issued during the Admiral Horthy period: Hungarian Order of Merit- Commander Cross Hungarian Order of Merit- Grand Officer Cross (the neck order) Hungarian Order of Merit- Grand Cross (not the breast star) Many thanks
  21. Bought this badge with a some Kappenabzeichen. Does not seem to be a Kappenabzeichen to me. More like a sidecap badge (like those of the Levente) with a space for a feather or something. Who can identify the badge for me?!
  22. Any ideas? Thought I knew something about Hungarian badges but this is new to me... ' alt='' class='ipsImage' width="679px" height="750px"> ' alt='' class='ipsImage' width="679px" height="750px">
  23. Here's an 8 medals bar. It's too long for my major jacket. Didn't there worn 4 + 4 or 6+2 ? Ribbon bar, latest form ?
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