Laurence Strong Posted January 10, 2007 Author Posted January 10, 2007 This one also has the thinner stripe in the ribbon.Thanks for looking
Jacky Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 Really nice medals!!!I like it...I have only the ribbon of the Fireman and civil guards, got it with some deal and just allow it to sit just in my box...Concerning the Leopold II ribbon, I think it's the knights grade as the medals had a small piece of metal, illustrating the medal, in the color of the medal.Also are knights of Leopold II very very common for veterans of both world wars.Kind regards,Jacky
Hendrik Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 Why is the stripe in the 1st class wider than on this one, is it the class of the medal, or a old vs new, or would it be the wrong ribbon - thought I can't find another medal to match it too.Hello Laurence,Wrong ribbon I'm afraid ... Don't know the ribbon either but suspect it might be one taken from a non-official medal because of the resemblance to the correct fire brigade ribbon.Cheers,Hendrik
ErikMuller Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 I had been waiting for the right moment to post this picture.It shows four Civic Decorations:The Civic Cross for Long Service in the Fire Department and Home Guards (watch the suspension!)Unknown Civic Decoration, I guess the Civic Decoration for acts of Courage and Devotion with the Fire Department or Home GuardCivic Decoration for Acts of Courage, Devotion and Humanity x2Any of you guys have an idea on the service and if my guesses for these Civic Decorations are correct?
Laurence Strong Posted January 10, 2007 Author Posted January 10, 2007 Hi ErikNice photo it looks like he has a "Grenade" symbol on his collar. Could that indicate a branch of service?@ hendrikYou now have me confussed When I visit your sitehttp://users.skynet.be/hendrik/ I see 2 of the Sapeurs-Pompiers with the same thick green stripe in the center, though mine might be a little darker green. Yet the ribbon bar and the other 2 medals and g_deploige's photo in post #9, show a thin center strip, is that the incorrect one then?Thanks for the help.
Hendrik Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 The Civic Cross for Long Service in the Fire Department and Home Guards (watch the suspension!)Unknown Civic Decoration, I guess the Civic Decoration for acts of Courage and Devotion with the Fire Department or Home GuardCivic Decoration for Acts of Courage, Devotion and Humanity x2Hello Erik,Trust you to come up with a picture like this I'm not at all sure but it looks to me as if the man is wearing three Courage+Devotion ones - presumably gold, silver and bronze classes. Noted the difference in sizes and I don't think it's the picture but him actually wearing various sizes. The suspension on the Long Service one is indeed not the usual one but I've seen just the one in another picture some time ago. No clue as to why that suspension was used ... perhaps a manufacturer's error ?Cheers,Hendrik
Hendrik Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 ...Nice photo it looks like he has a "Grenade" symbol on his collar. Could that indicate a branch of service?...I see 2 of the Sapeurs-Pompiers with the same thick green stripe in the center, though mine might be a little darker green. Yet the ribbon bar and the other 2 medals and g_deploige's photo in post #9, show a thin center strip, is that the incorrect one then?Laurence,I think I have to revise my opinion on those ribbons : in fact, after checking with my "bible", I've found 4 different ones can apply (thinner and thicker white stripes, different shades of green, even two size of ribbon width) although your ribbons with the thin center strip would make that a fifth variety ... still, I do think it's impossible as Belgian manufacturers are not exactly known to be very precise I'm not into service branch insignia at all but feel confident to say the "grenade" is not related to fire brigades ... which leaves us with the "garde civique" I suppose.Cheers,Hendrik
ErikMuller Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 Trust you to come up with a picture like this I just bought a house, so can't afford the real medals anymore Here's another one.This civil servant is wearin both the cross and the medal. As a nice attachment he added a crown to his Administration Long Service Medal.
Jacky Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 I had been waiting for the right moment to post this picture.It shows four Civic Decorations:The Civic Cross for Long Service in the Fire Department and Home Guards (watch the suspension!)Unknown Civic Decoration, I guess the Civic Decoration for acts of Courage and Devotion with the Fire Department or Home GuardCivic Decoration for Acts of Courage, Devotion and Humanity x2Any of you guys have an idea on the service and if my guesses for these Civic Decorations are correct?Hi Eric,Nice pictures!!!I think that the second one from left isn't a civic decoration, it appears to have a thick darker center stripe which could be the Leopold II medal.... But then.. It's in the wrong place.....However I really think that it's not a civic decoration based on it's ribbon.Kind regards,Jacky
ErikMuller Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 Hi Eric,Nice pictures!!!I think that the second one from left isn't a civic decoration, it appears to have a thick darker center stripe which could be the Leopold II medal.... But then.. It's in the wrong place.....However I really think that it's not a civic decoration based on it's ribbon.Kind regards,JackyOn the actual picture it's clear that it's a Civic Decoration and certainly not a medal of the Order of Leopold II. The ribbon is not really clear though. The dark stripe in the center could also be a fold.
Jacky Posted January 10, 2007 Posted January 10, 2007 Okay, I surrender.... Maybe am I too much in love with the order of Leopold II, and do I see them everywhere....Not really a burden for me Kind regards,Jacky
Laurence Strong Posted January 10, 2007 Author Posted January 10, 2007 Thanks for the clarification Hendrik, I have a bronze one on the way, with a narrow strip I believe.
Laurence Strong Posted January 11, 2007 Author Posted January 11, 2007 3rd class Medal for Pompiers-Sapeurs, with yet another ribbon more in-line with the material and color of the 2 with the narrow center band and the ribbon bar.
speedytop Posted January 13, 2007 Posted January 13, 2007 Hi,is it allowed, to post some pieces out of my collection?The first one is a very small piece in silver:cross: 29.5mmribbon: 27mm (new?)The monogram differs from the other pieces presented here.I do not know, to which period it belongs.RegardsUweI beg your pardon for my bad English
Laurence Strong Posted January 13, 2007 Author Posted January 13, 2007 Hi UweWelcome to the club Feel free to post yours. I see what you mean, it is probably just a makers quirk. You will notice slight differences in the one's I have posted.
Riley1965 Posted January 14, 2007 Posted January 14, 2007 Here's my 2nd Class civilian long Service Medal. Doc
Laurence Strong Posted March 13, 2007 Author Posted March 13, 2007 Nice silver one Micheal It has a nice patina to it.Slowly filling holes3rd class medal bronze "Valor" I have seen some Sapeurs et Pompiers for sale but not maay people in Belgium seem to like paypal, and driving 100k to buy Euro is no fun, so i let them pass....
Riley1965 Posted March 13, 2007 Posted March 13, 2007 Thanks Luarence !!! That's a nice 3rd Class you have there!!!Best,Doc
Iver Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 This is medal I own, I have seen it on a local numismatic fair and bught it. I didn´t knew what it is and that this is a Belgian civil decoration . But it´s a bit different in details as the medals I have seen on most photos... cca 28mm in diameter..
Laurence Strong Posted September 10, 2009 Author Posted September 10, 2009 This is medal I own, I have seen it on a local numismatic fair and bught it. I didn´t knew what it is and that this is a Belgian civil decoration . But it´s a bit different in details as the medals I have seen on most photos... cca 28mm in diameter.. Hello Iver Thanks for the contribution. They varied in size over the years. Here are a pair of mine showing 2 different sizes. Also I believe the bronze one pre dates 1918 as it has 3 leave on the branches. A quote from Hedrik earlier in this thread. No, it wasn't : I have both smaller and larger size bronze medals in my collection ... "normal" size (originally 30 mm as decreed in 1867) over the years has varied between 28 and 35 mm diameter. According to the Born? book, the 28mm type started to appear around 1898 whereas a 33mm one came into being about 1902. After WWI, upon ribbons being standardized to 37 mm, the medal grew to 35 mm. Cheers, Hendrik
Iver Posted September 10, 2009 Posted September 10, 2009 (edited) Here is a close-up of the medal.. what about those "holes" in cross arms? Also only another maker? Edited September 10, 2009 by Iver
speedytop Posted February 14, 2011 Posted February 14, 2011 Hi, Also only another maker? I cannot believe it, that it is only another maker. I think, it should be another period. Left is the piece from Laurence Strong from Post 6 and 7, in the middle is my silver service medal (29.5mm), right is my bronze medal for bravery (30.5mm). All the three medals are small versions, but there is another acanthus and another cypher, there are dotted cross arms etc.: Uwe
Corabia Alex Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Ist Class cross for Sapeurs-Pompiers. Hello, I`ve received this box recently; should I assume it is also for firefighters? Could anyone date it? Thank you ! Alex
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