Great Dane Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 (edited) I don't think it's the Order of the Oaken Crown. It looks like the Prussian Crown Order (it has the extra 'line' on the cross arms) and it's probably the Star of this order on his breast (it looks correct for this order - it's definitely not from the Swedish Order of the Sword or the Italian Crown Order).The rightmost order in the mounted group is indeed the Danish Order of Dannebrog./Mike Edited February 12, 2007 by Great Dane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 (edited) Found him, General J. J. G. van Voorts tot Voorts ( baron )Grandcross in the Order of the Dutch lionKnight in the Order of Oranje NassauKnight in the Order of the Dannebrog from DenmarkOfficer in the Legion d'Honneur from FranceCommander in the Order of Franz Josef from AustriaCommander in the Order of the Crown from ItalyCommander 2nd class in the Swordorder from SwedenKnight 2nd class in the Order of the Crown of PrussiaCross of Merit from the Dutch Red CrossDutch Long service Cross with the number 60Medal for the 25 year marriage from Queen Wilhelmina Edited February 12, 2007 by Herr General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 "Knight in the Order of the Dannebrog from Sweden"...I say... go wash your mouth with soap... /Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 Stupid mistake, sorry I will try to ID the other photo's later one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikMuller Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 It is A van de Moer See "Het Vaderland" 29-06-1940 Avond page 3His decoration hidden under the other medals is still unknownOfficer in the Order of Oranje NassauOfficer in the Order of the Legion d'Honneur from FranceOfficer in the Order of the Redeemer from GreeceCross of Merit from the Dutch Red CrossMobilisation CrossOfficers Cross of the Austrian Red Cross w/war decoration 1914-19 ( breastcross )The unknown medal is a button from his jacket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikMuller Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 The colonel in the center is Jhr. E.W. van Holthe, Commander of the Ist Infantry Brigade (Brigade Grenadiers en Jagers).The Lieutenant-Colonel seated on the left is Lt-Col. W. Froger, Commander of the Grenadier Regiment, seated on the right is Lt-Col. W.G. van Hoogenhuyze (MWO), Commander of the Jager Regiment.Haven't got an ID on the others yet, but will continue my search! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 (edited) This picture must have been made short after WW1, since the officers wear the dutch War recommemorative cross 1914-1918 and the lieutenant Colonel, seated at the right, is wearing a lot of WW1 red-cross decorations of the neighbours; Germany, Austria-Hungary etc.Kind regards,Jackyp.s. Am I correct in saying that the man standing at the left is a non-commissioned officer as he appears to wear a long service MEDAL...Let the master speak himself.... Edited February 12, 2007 by Jacky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikMuller Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 This picture must have been made short after WW1, since the officers wear the dutch War recommemorative cross 1914-1918 and the lieutenant Colonel, seated at the right, is wearing a lot of WW1 red-cross decorations of the neighbours; Germany, Austria-Hungary etc.Kind regards,Jackyp.s. Am I correct in saying that the man standing at the left is a non-commissioned officer as he appears to wear a long service MEDAL...Let the master speak himself.... Jacky,You're not correct (sorry!)He's wearing:Flood Medal in bronzeOfficer's Long Service CrossMobilisation War Cross 1914-1918Knight of the Order of Military and Civil Merit of Adolph of Nassau (Luxembourg)I've identified him as Major J.A.G. van Andel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikMuller Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Jacky,You're not correct (sorry!)He's wearing:Flood Medal in bronzeOfficer's Long Service CrossMobilisation War Cross 1914-1918Knight of the Order of Military and Civil Merit of Adolph of Nassau (Luxembourg)I've identified him as Major J.A.G. van Andel!Since the information on this picture was getting a bit 'stretched', I moved the picture and the ID's to some unused webspace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 Thanks Eric and Jacky for your comments and thank Eric for your ID's. What is your source? A Ranklist?I think your right that the mistery medal is a button! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikMuller Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Thanks Eric and Jacky for your comments and thank Eric for your ID's. What is your source? A Ranklist?My source: "Gedenkboek Grenadiers en Jagers 1929-1939" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 Great!Some info: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 Eric, in the newspaper archives these persons are often named together:Luitenant-Kolonel W. Froger, Majoor J.A.G. van Andel and Kapitein Baron van IttersumCould this be the missing Kapitein ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikMuller Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Eric, in the newspaper archives these persons are often named together:Luitenant-Kolonel W. Froger, Majoor J.A.G. van Andel and Kapitein Baron van IttersumCould this be the missing Kapitein ?He is listed as Kapitein-Adjudant of the 19th Infantry Regiment in 1923, so this could be possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 What kind of foreign awards are Hoogenhuyze and Froger wearing?Froger: Legion d'Honneur ?Hoogenhuyze: Italian order ? Austrian Red Cross ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikMuller Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 What kind of foreign awards are Hoogenhuyze and Froger wearing?Froger: Legion d'Honneur ?Hoogenhuyze: Italian order ? Austrian Red Cross ?Froger:Knight in the Order of Orange-Nassau with swordsOfficer's Long Service CrossMobilisation Commemorative Cross 1914-1918Knight of the Order of the Sword of SwedenHoogenhuyzeMilitary William's Order, Knight 4th classExpedition Cross with three claspsLarge Gold Proficiency Medal of the Netherlands Olympic Committee with golden crownOfficer's Long Service CrossMobilisation Commemorative Cross 1914-1918Medal of Honour of the Hungarian Red CrossDecoration 2nd class of the Austrian Red Cross with War Decoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted February 13, 2007 Author Share Posted February 13, 2007 (edited) Thank you Eric, I am amazed by the information you are able to find time and time again! Thanks. You must have a large library 2 to go!B http://i8.tinypic.com/482g32w.jpgGrandofficer in the Order of the Oakencrown from Luxembourg ( upper neckdecoration and right breastbadge )Waldeck - Milit?r-Verdienstorden, Kreuz 1. Klasse 3th class in the Order of the Lion and the Sun of PersiaKnight 4th class in the Military Order of William from the NetherlandsKnight in the Order of the Dutch Lion from the NetherlandsDutch officiers long service CrossDutch Cross for important war operations with two clasp ( one could be "ATJEH 1873-1874" because of the Atjeh medal )Dutch Atjeh medalG http://i4.tinypic.com/2rh9q3c.jpgCommander 2nd class in the Order of the Sword from SwedenUnknown breastbadgeKnight in the Order of the Dutch Lion from the NetherlandsOfficier the Order of Oranje Nassau with Swords from the NetherlandsDutch Cross for important war operations with claspDutch officiers long service Cross5th class in the Order of the Lion and the Sun of Persia Edited February 13, 2007 by Herr General Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacky Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 (edited) the first picture is hard...I would guess something german, because the commander has oakleaves hangen above it.But it's not a pour le merite....Another german order with the keepered arms was the ludwig order, but this order had a crown above it.2nd picture;Commander 1st class, the breaststar is also of the order of the sword from Sweden.And the last one is indeed of persia, the order of the sun & Lion of persia. Edited February 13, 2007 by Jacky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted February 13, 2007 Author Share Posted February 13, 2007 Your Right about the Lion and the Sun Jacky, the first person ( B ) is also wearing this decoration.Are you sure about the Order of the Sword from Sweden? The Grandcross doesn't look te same ....Any ideas about the unknown neckdecoration from person B? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikMuller Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Your Right about the Lion and the Sun Jacky, the first person ( B ) is also wearing this decoration.Are you sure about the Order of the Sword from Sweden? The Grandcross doesn't look te same ....Any ideas about the unknown neckdecoration from person B?It is most certainly not the GC-star of the Order of the Sword, but what it is... no idea!On Picture 1 the officer is wearing a 3rd class of the Order of the Lion and the Sun, not a 4th class. The number of the arms of the star are linked to the grade: 8 = 1st grade, 7 = 2nd grade, 6 = 3rd grade, 5 = 4th grade and 4 = 5th grade. This one has 6 arms!Unfortunately I've got quite a library (and I have to move it in a couple of weeks ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted February 13, 2007 Author Share Posted February 13, 2007 Thanks for the info. I have seen the Cross with GD inside ? worn by person 1 before. But I can't remember where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Found it! (the cross with the GD inside)Waldeck - Milit?r-Verdienstorden, Kreuz 1. Klasse (2. class was without oakleaves)/Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted February 13, 2007 Author Share Posted February 13, 2007 Thanks Mike, that's great. I will see if I can find a match in the newspaper archives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr General Posted February 13, 2007 Author Share Posted February 13, 2007 G http://i4.tinypic.com/2rh9q3c.jpgCommander 2nd class in the Order of the Sword from SwedenUnknown breastbadgeKnight in the Order of the Dutch Lion from the NetherlandsOfficier the Order of Oranje Nassau with Swords from the NetherlandsDutch Cross for important war operations with claspDutch officiers long service Cross5th class in the Order of the Lion and the Sun of PersiaFound Mister G. General Tonnet. Al the awards match. Only he has a 4th class in the Order of the Lion and the Sun. But that could be a mistake. He also has a Belgium Grandcross. Order of the Crown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Dane Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Could his unknown breast star be the Belgian Order of the Crown?It looks like the star awarded for Commander 1. class (aka Grand Officer) and - although my Dutch is non-existing - I would interpret "Commandeur en groot-officier" in the article as Grand Officer./Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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