order_of_victory Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 (edited) Yep some docs, the docs for 20th Anivarsary for theSoviet Arned Forces and Red Star Awarded to a Air Force Colonel, Ivan Gulyaichenko. Buy the time he was awarded 20th Aniversary Doc he had becom a major.Courtosy of Collect Russia Order of Victory Edited September 20, 2006 by order_of_victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
order_of_victory Posted September 19, 2006 Author Share Posted September 19, 2006 Yep some docs, the docs for 20th Anivarsary for theSoviet Arned Forces and Red Star Awarded to the same person.Courtosy of Collect Russia Order of VictoryFinal PicOrder of Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondvor Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Awesome documents. Looks like he was in aviation. Are awards available or papers only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
order_of_victory Posted September 19, 2006 Author Share Posted September 19, 2006 Mondvor Yes hewas in the Air Force, unfotunatly only docs But I do have an undcumented 20th Anivarsary for the Soviet Armed Forces medal that can go with the doc for display If any one has the missing Red Star let me know Order of Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Nice, even in the absence of his awards! Almost worth getting the research, even if just for the documents?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondvor Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 After I'll come home, I'll check for his Ukaz in my databaze. Might be something interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
order_of_victory Posted September 19, 2006 Author Share Posted September 19, 2006 Is reaserch possible on awards this old Thanks ED Order of Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Is reaserch possible on awards this old Think it'd be worth asking, if "Big M" can't help out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondvor Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Think it'd be worth asking, if "Big M" can't help out.Who is "big M"? Is that Moiseev, Merezhko or McDaniel? As far as I know there were no citations for the awards prior to WWII. All you can find is award card and Ukaz published in the newspaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Haynes Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Who is "big M"? Is that Moiseev, Merezhko or McDaniel? As far as I know there were no citations for the awards prior to WWII. All you can find is award card and Ukaz published in the newspaper.That is YOU, mate!! I have no reason to expect anything could be found, but sometimes it is worth asking, even if you anticipate the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondvor Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 That is YOU, mate!! I have no reason to expect anything could be found, but sometimes it is worth asking, even if you anticipate the answer. Me? What a surprise Well, I have about 80% of all Ukazes from 1934 to 1938 with the names and sometimes with a description of the merits (especially for labor awards). I'll check for his name tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rick Research Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I believe there are THREE rank rectangles on his collar tabs in the February 1941 Orders Book photo--which made him, at that point, a Lieutenant Colonel. If not killed early in the war, he might well have made General. I wonder about lack of other awards in the Orders Book (these early ones are usually a mess all stamped and written in without proper lines) so perhaps he did not live to see 1942.There might even be the FOUR bars of a full Colonel, but I cannot tell from the small scan.Yes, the more I look at the 1941 photo, he's got 4 bars on each tab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
order_of_victory Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 Rick,The absence of other awards in the 1941 book was one of the things that drew me to group Thanks "Big M" I would appriciate any more information on this guy What are the likley reasons for him being awarded a Red Star at this time Order of Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondvor Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Hello Gentlemen,By some strange reason I didn't have an access to the forum from my home computer. Every time when I hit a link, the blank web page poped up. The browser says "Done" like a page was found OK, but nothing is on the screen. Probably something went wrong with my settings. But other forums and web pages I can see normally.Anyway, I found the guy. This is Ukaz (to be more precise not the Ukaz, but Postanovlenie) about Military Aviation pilots, crewmembers and technicians. His rank indicated as Major. There were more than 200 Red Stars issued with this Postanovlenie (his number in the list is 67 if I do not mistaken) along with many Red Banners and Badges of Honor. I can do the translation of the description of merits in this Postanovlenie, but it is common to all recipients.I wish I can restore my access to the forum from my home computer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
order_of_victory Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 Mondvor,Sorry to hear about your computer problems Thats fantastic news, a translation of why they were awarded would be fantastic BTW what is the difference between a ukaz and a Postanovlenie Order of Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondvor Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Well, until 1938 there was a Central Executive Commetee of USSR and all awards were bestowed in according with Postanovlenie (Decree) of this organization. Since 1938 Cental Executive Commetee was replaced with the Presidium of Supreme Soviet of the USSR and since that time awards were bestowed in according with Ukaz of PSS.I'll try to put the translation, but it is just a basic description. No personal details in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck In Oregon Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Hello Gentlemen,By some strange reason I didn't have an access to the forum from my home computer. Every time when I hit a link, the blank web page poped up. The browser says "Done" like a page was found OK, but nothing is on the screen. Probably something went wrong with my settings. But other forums and web pages I can see normally.* * * * *I had a similar problem not long ago and it was very frustrating. What I did -- finally, and only after being told by someone else -- was to click on "Tools" in my top browser bar, then >Internet Options>Temporary Internet Files>Delete Files. Worked for me. Let us know if it works for you.Good luck.Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
order_of_victory Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 MONDVOR,Thanks for clearing that up Order of Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerd Becker Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 Fantastic Document Set Gosnak-Red Star Nr. 913, wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
order_of_victory Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 Fantastic Document Set Gosnak-Red Star Nr. 913, wow! Thank Gerd now just to find the order Order of Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mondvor Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 I tried wat was suggested by Chuck, but it didn't help That's OK - sooner or later I'll figure it out.Here is a translation of the Postanovlenie. I do not have actual newspaper, because all JPEG images of all Postanovlenies and Ukazes would use lots of space on a harddisc. So everything was converted in Microsoft Word format, verified and stored that way. And it's way easier to update it (for example add known awards numbers to this information). About The Rewarding Of The Pilots Of The Red Army Military Air Forces. Central Executive Committee of the USSR decided:For outstanding personal results in the acquirement of the modern military aircraft technics and skillful leadership in military and political training of Red Army Air Forces, reward: Order of Lenin:1. Abramichev S.I. - Major.2. Aistov S.M. - Sr. Lieutenant.......118. Shevchenko V.V. - Sr. Lieutenant.119. Yakovenko A.S. - Military Technician 1st class. Order of Red Star:1. Abramov P.M. - Military Engeneer 3rd class.2. Avtonomov A.A. - Captain.......57. Gulyachenko I.I. - Major.......261. Yagushevsky V.V. - Brigade Comissar.262. Yarovoy K.V. - Sr. Lieutenant. Order "Badge of Honor":1. Akulshin I.K. - Sr. Lieutenant.2. Ananiev I.N. - Military Engeneer 2rd class.......178. Yaroshenko Y.S. - Sr. Lieutenant.179. Yachmenev S.S. - Captain. Moscow, Kremlin. May 25th, 1936.Published in # 121 Rroceedings of Central Executive Committee on May 26th, 1936Chairman of Central Executive Committee of the USSR M. Kalinin.Executive Secretary of Central Executive Committee of the USSR I. Unshliht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
order_of_victory Posted September 21, 2006 Author Share Posted September 21, 2006 (edited) MONDVOR, Wow that is fantastic So he helped bring about a Modern Soviet Air force , very cool That gives the group another dimension Order of Victory Edited September 21, 2006 by order_of_victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
order_of_victory Posted September 24, 2006 Author Share Posted September 24, 2006 (edited) Heres a pic I hav just don wich shows what the group would look like with the medals and orders, hope you like it Order of Victory Edited September 24, 2006 by order_of_victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 OOV,That grouping is something really special!! You should get that Red Star Researched. What was the award date for it, again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
order_of_victory Posted October 17, 2007 Author Share Posted October 17, 2007 OOV,That grouping is something really special!! You should get that Red Star Researched. What was the award date for it, again?Hi Paul,Glad you like it I was realy lucky picking up these docs Unfortunatly awards this early can not be recardched But I do I have the Postanovlenie that posted in the thread which states what it was awarded for Its dated 1936 Order of Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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