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Hi Rick,

Not one I'd want. The pin appears to be Meybauer but the reverse profile of the wreath tie/bow looks like a Juncker - an obverse pic would be nice to confirm this. Shallow crown well I also don't like. I'll leave the engraving alone - the same "blocky" style is known on some fakes though.

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Mike

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I have seen a couple Meybauer pieces using the shallow crown well. I have a damaged "6 point star" marked badge with no other markings that has the same shallow crown well as this one , but an odd pin and I feel it is a real one. I can post it if you like. The engraving does not look like it is worded properly and is crude at best. I say original badge :love: with fake engraving. :angry:

Dan

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Some additional points. in and of themselves, the crown well, the pin, the hinge, the cross are not of concern... roll them all into this badge. Uh, not a chance. An engraved badge is a custom piece, so the cross worked over is not unusual. BUT, the quickest, clearest give-away is the Meybauer styled pin with the bow on the front. They don't match. Also, while close, the pin is not a precise Meybauer match to known/accepted originals.

Now...... given this, it must be noted that Juncker actually DID use a pin like this on their U-Boot Badges and certain Pilot Badges made in the 1930's/40's...... However, we then must fall back on the hinge/crown well are NOT Juncker in the least and neither are the die characteristics of the badge itself.... The engraving.... No German did that!

ALSO< !! > I recently saw a fake engraving job done on the back of an authentic badge.... talk about just plain dumb.....

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Mr. Smith,

The cross, crown well and pin look plausible. And it is obviously made of silver with the green dross on it. As to the engraving, I know these seem dubious most of the time, but it does not appear to have been done recently. Beyond those thoughts, I leave it to Rick or the other experts. Steve

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