Steve Russell Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Nothing spectacular but a nice representation of what a fighting Wurttemburger might have earned. And I second Don's welcome Steven. Good to see you over here as well. Steve[attachmentid=58967] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMPERIAL QUEST Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 (edited) Hi Steve,Super grouping, and thanks...this is my new permanent residence. Edited October 31, 2006 by IMPERIAL QUEST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Gentlemen,I have posted this medal before; but perhaps some of our newer members have not seen it.Best wishes,Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Reverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe campbell Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 (edited) wild card-my thanks for your wonderful pieces!in the group of three, two were brass/bronze,one was steel/lead. just wartime metal supply??(referring to post #13)very mice!joe Edited November 1, 2006 by joe campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 Thank you Joe.With regard to your question addressing the metals (materials) used, I am not completely clear on this matter myself. As near as I can determine, Hessenthal/Schreiber says that all examples should be dark oxidized copper bronze. At the same time, Nimmergut says that the pin back should be bronze, the cross with swords should be dark bronze and the two classes without swords should be light bronze. So.... I am inclined that these guidelines were expanded due to as you so well put it - ?just wartime metal supply?. As I seem to recall, we see similar variations with the Bavarian third class MVK?s, don?t we? Further opinions and information on this subject would be most welcome.Best wishes,Wild Card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Gentlemen,Before this thread fades away, I think that it deserves examples of the various orders of W?rttemberg. So I?ll do my best to help fill some gaps.First we have the knight?s cross of both the Civil Merit Order and the Military Merit Order, from 1806. That?s correct, same badge for two separate orders, the difference being in the suspension ribbon. More on this in a moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 The reverse is rather interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Next is the more familiar Order of the Wurttemberg Crown which replaced the Civil Merit Order (above) in 1818. Here is a knights second class cross with swords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 A knight?s cross to the Order of Military Merit also from 1818 on . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Card Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Lastly, a knight first class with swords to the Friedrich Order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted November 3, 2006 Share Posted November 3, 2006 Thanks WC, nice presentation of some rarer orders!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Y Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 The low end of the Friedrichs Orden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Y Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 See what a polishing cloth and a case of OCD can doThis guz must have been really proud of his service and paraded a lot.Note the brass half-round wire soldered to the ends of the bar to protect the ribbons and keep them in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinpon590 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Hello !Some very classic, but I like it !! Charlote's cross... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinpon590 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Wilhelm's cross, for non combattant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinpon590 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Wilhelm's cross with swords... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinpon590 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 2nd class knight cross of Frederic Order... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinpon590 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Gold Bravery medal, post war issued, in silver golded (stamped "800" on the ring) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinpon590 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 And finaly, a small classic bar :1/ Iron cross 2nd class, on combattant ribbon2/ Silver bravery medal3/ Honor cross 1914/18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinpon590 Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 The reason that there are two examples without swords and one with is evident when we compare the reverses. The crosses with swords have the inscription "kriegs verdienst" on the reverse while the crosses without swords could be awarded with or without the inscription.I'd like to elaborate this answer :According to Dr KliethmannThe cross with swords is awarded for combattant.The cross without swords and with "Kriegsverdienst" inscription on back side is the cross for "Verdienste im Kriege in der Heimat" (War merit toward homeland)The cross without swords and without any inscription on the back side is known as cross "f?r sonstige Verdienste " (for general merit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Powell Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 This is one of my particular favourites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Powell Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 i am fond of this one as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dond Posted April 22, 2008 Author Share Posted April 22, 2008 I forgot about this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dond Posted April 22, 2008 Author Share Posted April 22, 2008 And the reverse for those who want to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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