Dave Danner Posted December 8, 2006 Author Posted December 8, 2006 Rick,Any idea how a German officer would get a medal from neutral Sweden in 1914?Everyone was neutral in June 1914. And King Gustav V's pro-German sentiments weren't exactly unknown.The usual route was to have some connection with one of the following regiments:? Grenadier-Regiment zu Pferde Nr. 3 (colonel-in-chief was King Gustav V of Sweden)? F?silier-Regiment Nr. 34 (colonel-in-chief was Queen Victoria of Sweden and the regiment was raised in former Swedish Pomerania)Swedish princes were also ? la suite to several regiments, and often rewarded other officers of those regiments. One of these was the Crown Prince of Sweden, Gustav Adolf, ? la suite to the Baden Life Grenadiers (LGR 109). Baden might seem a little far from Sweden, but Gustav Adolf's uncle, Queen Victoria's brother, was Grand Duke Friedrich II of Baden.No special reason jumps to mind for von Frobel's award. Possibly a royal visit he helped coordinate.
Mike Dwyer Posted December 8, 2006 Posted December 8, 2006 Everyone was neutral in June 1914. And King Gustav V's pro-German sentiments weren't exactly unknown.The usual route was to have some connection with one of the following regiments:? Grenadier-Regiment zu Pferde Nr. 3 (colonel-in-chief was King Gustav V of Sweden)? F?silier-Regiment Nr. 34 (colonel-in-chief was Queen Victoria of Sweden and the regiment was raised in former Swedish Pomerania)Swedish princes were also ? la suite to several regiments, and often rewarded other officers of those regiments. One of these was the Crown Prince of Sweden, Gustav Adolf, ? la suite to the Baden Life Grenadiers (LGR 109). Baden might seem a little far from Sweden, but Gustav Adolf's uncle, Queen Victoria's brother, was Grand Duke Friedrich II of Baden.No special reason jumps to mind for von Frobel's award. Possibly a royal visit he helped coordinate.Thanks, Dave. I figured it was probably some royal visit or something.
Glenn J Posted December 19, 2006 Posted December 19, 2006 von Frobel's Knight 1st Class of the Swedish Sword Order was gazetted in the Milit?r-Wochenblatt of 25 June 1914. It's in Willi Geile's volume of all such awards, published by Michael Autengruber in 1997.And here is the relevant page from the Milit?r-Wochenblatt of 25 June 1914 granting permission for the wear of non Prussian orders. It will be seen that Hauptmann v. Frobel's regimental commander, Oberst Hans Karl von Winterfeldt was awarded the commander's cross of the same order at the same time.RegardsGlenn
Mike Dwyer Posted December 19, 2006 Posted December 19, 2006 Wow, Glenn, thanks a lot! I really appreciate all of the bits and pieces that have been located on von Frobel.
Naxos Posted December 19, 2006 Posted December 19, 2006 (edited) Hello Mike, in case you didn't get a translation of the the first card yet: Meinem lieben Kriegskameraden Herrn Leutnant Otto Rost zur freundlichen Erinnerung an gemeinsam verlebte frohe und nette Stunden. H. v. Frobel,1.August 1915 To my dear war-comrade Leutnant Otto Rost for friendly remembrance of happy and nice hours lived together. H. v. Frobel, August 1/15Regards, Hardy Edited December 19, 2006 by Naxos
Naxos Posted December 19, 2006 Posted December 19, 2006 Just a thought: since both cards were dedicated to Lt. Rost a year apart, they probably came from Rost's estate.Hardy
Naxos Posted December 19, 2006 Posted December 19, 2006 Same seller! same dedication as the one from 1915 but he writes his name now Kost, on the other cards he called him Rost http://cgi.ebay.com/WWI-Foto-Offizier-Orde...1QQcmdZViewItemcompare the three dedications
Mike Dwyer Posted December 20, 2006 Posted December 20, 2006 (edited) Very interesting!!! But, I'm still glad I have the cards. I bought them for the photos on the front, not the messages on the back. Edited December 20, 2006 by Mike Dwyer
Mike Dunn Posted December 20, 2006 Posted December 20, 2006 (edited) wonder if the same person wrote the message on all three postcards--check out the dates--he dots the one's one the last one and not on the first two--that common?? The writting looks different--could the seller be adding a message on the cards??? Mike Edited December 20, 2006 by Mike Dunn
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