Bill Garvy Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Here's an unusual cross from my collection. Turns out to be an "N" maker marked (on the pin as you will soon see) cross. "N" was apparently an Imperial manufacturer. Regardless, I would love to hear your thoughts, gentlemen. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Garvy Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 The reverse. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Garvy Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 (edited) Maker mark on the pin. . . At first I thought it was an "11", and quite possibly a Gro?mann variant. . . Edited July 12, 2005 by Bill Garvy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Garvy Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 The hinge. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Garvy Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 The clasp. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Garvy Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 An alternate view of the clasp. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Garvy Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 Here's a close-up of the "1939". . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Garvy Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 And finally, a view of the swastika. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer57 Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Beautiful EK1 Bill! That's a tricky MM?...do you have a photo of a Gro?mann variant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Garvy Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 (edited) Panzer57,The only "11" maker mark I have is on a 2nd Class cross, which is pictured below. As you can see this example, as well as the 1st Class examples, the fonts are quite different from the maker mark on the 1st Class cross shown above. The only maker marked Gro?mann's in 1st class I have seen are marked with their characteristically styled "11" below the clasp, so I thought this example may be a variant, insofar as it was marked on the pin. A closer inspection with my trusty 30x magnifier, and consulting with other more experienced collectors, confirmed this is, in fact, an "N" and not an "11", and, as aformentioned, "N" was a manufacturer of Imperial Iron Croses. I thought it quite interesting to see a "1939" issue cross with an Imperial pin, hinge, and clasp configuration. Edited July 12, 2005 by Bill Garvy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Garvy Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 (edited) Here's an example of an "11" maker mark on a 1st Class cross. (Photo courtesy of George Stimson?) Notice the similarity to the 2nd Class cross? Edited July 12, 2005 by Bill Garvy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Stimson Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 That's the first time I've seen an apparent Imperial mark on a 1939 EK 1. I have, however, seen an Imperial mark on a 1939 EK 2 -- specifically this example with the Sy Wagner "S-W" mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Stimson Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 (As a qualifier, though, I must point out that the small ribbon ring on this EK 2 is open, so it is possible that an Imperial ring got put onto the cross by someone other than the manufacturer.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer57 Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Bill,Indeed a rare and beautiful Cross! Thank-you for showing me these examples posted. Anyone would be proud to have this one in their collection.Panzer57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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